Toronto, Canada Delta Kappa Epsilon Drug Raid Reported

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

Well... they were having fun on their way out. Shrooms and cat tranquilizers are relatively cheap, so that was f***-ton of blow they had.

A kilo is probably somewhere between $20-30k. 4 or 5 kilos of coke at a fraternity house, damn.

I'm pretty sure Ketamine is horse tranquilizers.

I don't know, never messed with the stuff.

[AGDee]

I could say something about a certain famous DKE with a former drug problem who is now POTUS, however.. instead I'll ask the question... Do we know if these guys are even DKEs? It says one was a 29 y/o alumni and it just says the other is a current U of T president. I know that a lot of chapters rent out space during the summer term and sometimes don't have any members living in the house.

[exlurker]

Originally Posted by AGDee

I could say something about a certain famous DKE with a former drug problem who is now POTUS, however.. instead I'll ask the question... Do we know if these guys are even DKEs? It says one was a 29 y/o alumni and it just says the other is a current U of T president. I know that a lot of chapters rent out space during the summer term and sometimes don't have any members living in the house.

AGDee, good question. If I'm reading things correctly, according to a follow-up story on the Globe and Mail's site, a person from Deke international HQ said the men arrested are in Deke's database. The same story reports that some people at the house in Toronto indicated that the people arrested aren't in DKE.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ional/Ontario/

Personally I heart ambiguity and lack of agreement, up to a point.

Excerpts:

. . . Mr. Easlick [identified as the executive director of Deke] confirmed the two accused are members of Delta Kappa Epsilon, saying they are in the fraternity's database. . . .

Outside the . . . Delta Kappa Epsilon mansion . . . two young men moved chairs and swept the stairs. The men, who would not give their names, said the two accused aren't members of the fraternal society.

[Firefruze]

I thought this was going to be a slap on the wrists for the DKE's and it would just fade away but this is turning into day 3 that its been making news! This whole situation makes me really shiver as the thought of loosing my chapter something I care deeply about because of a few fuck ups is pretty disturbing. My thoughts and condolences to the brothers at this house who had absolutely nothing to do with this but are being catapulted into the situation.

My concern now is the greek system in Toronto. As a member of a fraternity on campus I'm fearing that this is turning into an issue against us and that not only will students completely avoid us but that in an environment that we're already not really accepted in ,that we're going to be clamped down upon .

[Morpheus_LFE]

I agree with Firefruze. The Greek image at U of T isn't that great to begin with and an issue like this making news will make all GLOs on campus look bad. Greeks at UotT need to work 100 times harder to break the social stereotype of a typical "frat" life. I'm sure that not all Dekes at the UofT campus are drug traffickers. Just sucks that a few rotten apples spoils the bunch. In this case, the bunch being not only Dekes but all Greeks on campus.

Being the only ethnic fraternity on campus it will even make it more difficult for us to rush, recruit and retain members. FSC should definitely try to incorporate some sort of awareness program in the next school year. Just a thought.

[touchmybikini]

I was surprised to learn that DKE got busted for something like that, in fact I am shocked. I read somewhere that the drugs weren't even secluded, like underneath some brother's bed, in the far right room typa thing, the whole stash was out in the open for the police to come in and find.
What I can say is, they should be more careful when rushing their brothers because not every Greek has their frat's best intentions at heart, and not everyone realizes that once they get involved in their scams in the house, they get their entire frat involved as well. Do what you gotta do, but do it off the frat property.
Asides from that, they truly are a good group of guys and it's a shame that their rep (along with the reps of other Greeks) is now in jeopardy. I've read some really negative feedback from the non-Greek community on campus in other forums, where they really put down fratland, saying how they're "just like any other frat" and comments such as "what did you expect, I'm not surprised" were made. So it is a shame that the event strengthened the negative stereotype. Does anyone know whether the DKE, Alpha Phi chapter is most likely to get shut down after this, or what?

[EE825]

u know what else sucks....if this happened in a residence, they would say "student caught with cocaine"...but because its fraternity its "frat busted for drugs"....its not fair, its almost like the portrayal of different minorities who find themselves in the same situation as a majority but are painted differently by the media.

because its a fraternity the whole community is demonized...well guess what, they are U of T students, one a graduate and one currently working towards a degree...so why not project this onto all of U of T as well?

[touchmybikini]

Originally Posted by EE825

u know what else sucks....if this happened in a residence, they would say "student caught with cocaine"...but because its fraternity its "frat busted for drugs"....its not fair, its almost like the portrayal of different minorities who find themselves in the same situation as a majority but are painted differently by the media.

because its a fraternity the whole community is demonized...well guess what, they are U of T students, one a graduate and one currently working towards a degree...so why not project this onto all of U of T as well?

Yeah, it is a shame that the frat along with the entire greek system gets blamed for the actions of two people, but do you honestly think that nobody else knew about it? Yeah, it's a large house altogether, but people talk, the other brothers must have been aware of the situation, no?

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I'm pretty sure Ketamine is horse tranquilizers.

I don't know, never messed with the stuff.

Doesn't change the fact that it's 4 kilos of coke. Just damn.