Meet the US Army's 1st 4 star Female General

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Nope. Isn't it possible that she actually deserved it?
How on earth would this help McCain? He wasn't the one who nominated her.

Like I said...for our amusement....


The woman served for 33 years...how many administrations is that?

Ford
Carter
Reagan
Bush I
Clinton
Bush II x 2

uhhhhhhh....I think she is due!!!!


You ever thought about the fact that in what you are saying is sexist to think that the military is being sexist, by promoting her?

PhiGam....can you please do us all a fave and try to coordinate your brain and shut down the mysogynistic side before you post your next statement...it may actually show the rest of us that there is a glimmer of hope that a caveman doesn't exist in that cranium of yours.....

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

PhiGam....can you please do us all a fave and try to coordinate your bran and shut down the mysogynistic before you post your next statement...it may actually show the rest of us that there is a glimmer of hope that a caveman doesn't exist in that cranium of yours.....

I didn't read mysogyny in his posts. I read conspiracy theorist.

Now, if he had made a joke about how this accomplished female general doesn't suck--because her husband's mistress does--maybe.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I didn't read mysogyny in his posts. I read conspiracy theorist.

Now, if he had made a joke about how this accomplished female general doesn't suck--because her husband's mistress does--maybe.

I'll take that too...

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Like I said...for our amusement....


The woman served for 33 years...how many administrations is that?

Ford
Carter
Reagan
Bush I
Clinton
Bush II x 2

uhhhhhhh....I think she is due!!!!


You ever thought about the fact that in what you are saying is sexist to think that the military is being sexist, by promoting her?

PhiGam....can you please do us all a fave and try to coordinate your brain and shut down the mysogynistic side before you post your next statement...it may actually show the rest of us that there is a glimmer of hope that a caveman doesn't exist in that cranium of yours.....

I didn't say she wasn't deserving, but she can't be the first female in the history of the military who is deserving of a fourth star. If everyone who was deserving had gotten their fourth star then this would be a non-story. I'm not sure how you got misogyny out of my post, I stated facts.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I didn't say she wasn't deserving, but she can't be the first female in the history of the military who is deserving of a fourth star. If everyone who was deserving had gotten their fourth star then this would be a non-story. I'm not sure how you got misogyny out of my post, I stated facts.

I agree with you.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I didn't say she wasn't deserving, but she can't be the first female in the history of the military who is deserving of a fourth star. If everyone who was deserving had gotten their fourth star then this would be a non-story. I'm not sure how you got misogyny out of my post, I stated facts.

Umm...THAT is the point of the WHOLE story....she is the first WOMAN PERIOD..who has gotten one....but then you go off on some bullshit fishing expedition about how this is a political move trying to win supporters for McCain...Obviously not many people get one especially a woman...

Maybe you should have said what you just said without adding all the extra layers of jackassery in it....then it would make more sense...

Or maybe you thought you was trying to be funny....

Uhhh...no....


You know what...I don't have any more time to entertain your asinine comments today.


Do yourself a solid...click the link and read the entire story...


Ladies, especially those of you that are serving...thank you.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Umm...THAT is the point of the WHOLE story....she is the first WOMAN PERIOD..who has gotten one....but then you go off on some bullshit fishing expedition about how this is a political move trying to win supporters for McCain...Obviously not many people get one especially a woman...

Maybe you should have said what you just said without adding all the extra layers of jackassery in it....then it would make more sense...

Or maybe you thought you was trying to be funny....

Uhhh...no....


You know what...I don't have any more time to entertain your asinine comments today.


Do yourself a solid...click the link and read the entire story...


Ladies, especially those of you that are serving...thank you.

Go take a shot of muscle relaxer or something.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Umm...THAT is the point of the WHOLE story....she is the first WOMAN PERIOD..who has gotten one....but then you go off on some bullshit fishing expedition about how this is a political move trying to win supporters for McCain...Obviously not many people get one especially a woman...

Maybe you should have said what you just said without adding all the extra layers of jackassery in it....then it would make more sense...

Or maybe you thought you was trying to be funny....

Uhhh...no....


You know what...I don't have any more time to entertain your asinine comments today.


Do yourself a solid...click the link and read the entire story...


Ladies, especially those of you that are serving...thank you.

Different take on it....woo hoo, DS!

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Umm...THAT is the point of the WHOLE story....she is the first WOMAN PERIOD..who has gotten one....but then you go off on some bullshit fishing expedition about how this is a political move trying to win supporters for McCain...Obviously not many people get one especially a woman...

Maybe you should have said what you just said without adding all the extra layers of jackassery in it....then it would make more sense...

Or maybe you thought you was trying to be funny....

Uhhh...no....


You know what...I don't have any more time to entertain your asinine comments today.


Do yourself a solid...click the link and read the entire story...


Ladies, especially those of you that are serving...thank you.

Wait - you're rambling here in your apparent outrage, but are you really trying to imply that PhiGam was somehow "demeaning" the accomplishments of this woman by implying that her superiors (whom she presumably has no control over) might be waiting to promote her until it is politically expedient for them to do so?

Because that doesn't seem demeaning in the slightest. I think you're getting steamed for really no reason - and certainly the assertion (while unlikely, in my mind) is far from asinine, isn't it?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Wait - you're rambling here in your apparent outrage, but are you really trying to imply that PhiGam was somehow "demeaning" the accomplishments of this woman by implying that her superiors (whom she presumably has no control over) might be waiting to promote her until it is politically expedient for them to do so?

Because that doesn't seem demeaning in the slightest. I think you're getting steamed for really no reason - and certainly the assertion (while unlikely, in my mind) is far from asinine, isn't it?

I wasn't implying PhiGam's intention...I said it...go back and read what he initially posted...he implied that her promotion was political. And by that implication itself, he demeans what she was awarded especially in absence of evidence to support his 'theory'.

Go back....read...read carefully...it's really not that hard to see.

And I will also request that you do the same thing...don't just read the initial post, please read the entire story.


Women will be proud of this accomplishment and one man should not take away from it.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I wasn't implying PhiGam's intention...I said it...go back and read what he initially posted...he implied that her promotion was political. And by that implication itself, he demeans what she was awarded especially in absence of evidence to support his 'theory'.

No. No he doesn't.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Go back....read...read carefully...it's really not that hard to see.

And I will also request that you do the same thing...don't just read the initial post, please read the entire story.

Stop this - this isn't an argument, it's pretty much ad hominem, and it's message board trash (you'd never tell that to me in a face-to-face discussion, because it doesn't make sense - well guess what, it doesn't here either). Explain why it's demeaning. Assume I'm smart here, and that I disagree.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Women will be proud of this accomplishment and one man should not take away from it.

No man did.

It's OK to be skeptical - it's not mutually exclusive to think that the woman is both highly qualified, and that the "powers that be" utilized her qualification for political gain. One does not invalidate the other.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

(you'd never tell that to me in a face-to-face discussion, because it doesn't make sense - well guess what, it doesn't here either). Explain why it's demeaning. Assume I'm smart here, and that I disagree.

1. I was never trying to make this an argument but if you are going to post something like "her promotion is a way to get women to vote for McCain" especially since it was so obviously pointed out that he had nothing to do with it...then he has to prove it.

2. I wouldn't say it to you face to face? You don't think?? Ok...hehehe.....hint: Clark Kent isn't my offscreen name....

3. Assume you are smart....well let's also assume that she is smart, that she has worked her ass off moving up the ranks for 33 years. Making her a 4 star general, I think is not just a gimmie.....

While you are busy beefing with me, if you did as I asked, you may have caught this at the end of the article:

"I am very honored but also very humbled today with this announcement," said Dunwoody. "I grew up in a family that didn't know what glass ceilings were. This nomination only reaffirms what I have known to be true about the military throughout my career ... that the doors continue to open for men and women in uniform."

The Army Materiel Command handles all material readiness for the Army. During her career, Dunwoody has been assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division, 10th Mountain Division and the Defense Logistics Agency. She served with the 82nd Airborne in Saudi Arabia during the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

She has been awarded the Distinguished Service Medal, Defense Superior Service Medal, the Legion of Merit, the Meritorious Service Medal, the Army Commendation Medal, the Army Achievement Medal, Master Parachutist Badge and the Army Staff Identification Badge.

The first woman to become a general officer in the U.S. armed services was Brig. Gen. Anna Mae Hays, chief of the Army Nurse Corps, who achieved the rank in 1970 and retired the following year.

Elizabeth Hoisington, the director of the Women's Army Corps, was promoted to brigadier general immediately after Hays. She also retired the following year.

Maj. Gen. Jeanne M. Holm, the first director of Women in the Air Force, was the first woman to wear two stars, attaining the rank in 1973 and retiring two years later. In 1996, Marine Lt. Gen. Carol A. Mutter became the first woman to wear three stars. Mutter retired in 1999.

Currently, there are 57 active-duty women serving as generals or admirals, five of whom are lieutenant generals or vice admirals, the Navy's three-star rank, according to the Pentagon.



With all that she has accomplished and with so few women ever attaining the rank of General, me personally feels that it's a slap in the face to just simply assume that her appointment (again without evidence to prove it) was simply a political move.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I wasn't implying PhiGam's intention...I said it...go back and read what he initially posted...he implied that her promotion was political. And by that implication itself, he demeans what she was awarded especially in absence of evidence to support his 'theory'.

Go back....read...read carefully...it's really not that hard to see.

And I will also request that you do the same thing...don't just read the initial post, please read the entire story.


Women will be proud of this accomplishment and one man should not take away from it.

Doublespeak.

You were implying that PhiGam was reducing this woman's accomplishments to a political ploy. That isn't what PhiGam was doing. He was saying that this woman is deserving but she isn't the first deserving woman although she is the first to be given this opportunity. He was questioning the timing. He explained that to you but you still got on your soapbox.

Soapboxes are cool sometimes but be able to recognize and admit when you're on a random soapbox.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Doublespeak.

You were implying that PhiGam was reducing this woman's accomplishments to a political ploy. That isn't what PhiGam was doing. He was saying that this woman is deserving but she isn't the first deserving woman although she is the first to be given this opportunity. He was questioning the timing. He explained that to you but you still got on your soapbox.

Soapboxes are cool sometimes but be able to recognize and admit when you're on a random soapbox.

I disagree.

[pbear19]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned (or did I miss it?) that PhiGam's basic premise is ridiculous in and of itself, regardless of whether it is demeaning or not. To be effective, a political ploy needs to make people more likely to vote for a certain candidate. Does anyone honestly think there are women out there who will decide to vote for McCain simply because the Army decided to promote a deserving woman to 4 star General? None of the women I know are quite that fickle, nor are they quite that illogical as to surmise that A has anything to do with B. If this is a political move intended to benefit McCain, the PR person in charge of it needs to be fired asap.