Meet the US Army's 1st 4 star Female General

[PhiGam]

Nobody else thinks that this might have happened because the military wants to appear like they aren't sexist? (even though they are)
I think it may be an attempt to bring woman voters into the McCain camp following the defeat of Hillary.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Nobody else thinks that this might have happened because the military wants to appear like they aren't sexist? (even though they are)

Nope. Isn't it possible that she actually deserved it?

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I think it may be an attempt to bring woman voters into the McCain camp following the defeat of Hillary.

How on earth would this help McCain? He wasn't the one who nominated her.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Nope. Isn't it possible that she actually deserved it?
How on earth would this help McCain? He wasn't the one who nominated her.

Like I said...for our amusement....


The woman served for 33 years...how many administrations is that?

Ford
Carter
Reagan
Bush I
Clinton
Bush II x 2

uhhhhhhh....I think she is due!!!!


You ever thought about the fact that in what you are saying is sexist to think that the military is being sexist, by promoting her?

PhiGam....can you please do us all a fave and try to coordinate your brain and shut down the mysogynistic side before you post your next statement...it may actually show the rest of us that there is a glimmer of hope that a caveman doesn't exist in that cranium of yours.....

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

PhiGam....can you please do us all a fave and try to coordinate your bran and shut down the mysogynistic before you post your next statement...it may actually show the rest of us that there is a glimmer of hope that a caveman doesn't exist in that cranium of yours.....

I didn't read mysogyny in his posts. I read conspiracy theorist.

Now, if he had made a joke about how this accomplished female general doesn't suck--because her husband's mistress does--maybe.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I didn't read mysogyny in his posts. I read conspiracy theorist.

Now, if he had made a joke about how this accomplished female general doesn't suck--because her husband's mistress does--maybe.

I'll take that too...

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Like I said...for our amusement....


The woman served for 33 years...how many administrations is that?

Ford
Carter
Reagan
Bush I
Clinton
Bush II x 2

uhhhhhhh....I think she is due!!!!


You ever thought about the fact that in what you are saying is sexist to think that the military is being sexist, by promoting her?

PhiGam....can you please do us all a fave and try to coordinate your brain and shut down the mysogynistic side before you post your next statement...it may actually show the rest of us that there is a glimmer of hope that a caveman doesn't exist in that cranium of yours.....

I didn't say she wasn't deserving, but she can't be the first female in the history of the military who is deserving of a fourth star. If everyone who was deserving had gotten their fourth star then this would be a non-story. I'm not sure how you got misogyny out of my post, I stated facts.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I didn't say she wasn't deserving, but she can't be the first female in the history of the military who is deserving of a fourth star. If everyone who was deserving had gotten their fourth star then this would be a non-story. I'm not sure how you got misogyny out of my post, I stated facts.

I agree with you.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I didn't say she wasn't deserving, but she can't be the first female in the history of the military who is deserving of a fourth star. If everyone who was deserving had gotten their fourth star then this would be a non-story. I'm not sure how you got misogyny out of my post, I stated facts.

Umm...THAT is the point of the WHOLE story....she is the first WOMAN PERIOD..who has gotten one....but then you go off on some bullshit fishing expedition about how this is a political move trying to win supporters for McCain...Obviously not many people get one especially a woman...

Maybe you should have said what you just said without adding all the extra layers of jackassery in it....then it would make more sense...

Or maybe you thought you was trying to be funny....

Uhhh...no....


You know what...I don't have any more time to entertain your asinine comments today.


Do yourself a solid...click the link and read the entire story...


Ladies, especially those of you that are serving...thank you.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Umm...THAT is the point of the WHOLE story....she is the first WOMAN PERIOD..who has gotten one....but then you go off on some bullshit fishing expedition about how this is a political move trying to win supporters for McCain...Obviously not many people get one especially a woman...

Maybe you should have said what you just said without adding all the extra layers of jackassery in it....then it would make more sense...

Or maybe you thought you was trying to be funny....

Uhhh...no....


You know what...I don't have any more time to entertain your asinine comments today.


Do yourself a solid...click the link and read the entire story...


Ladies, especially those of you that are serving...thank you.

Go take a shot of muscle relaxer or something.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Umm...THAT is the point of the WHOLE story....she is the first WOMAN PERIOD..who has gotten one....but then you go off on some bullshit fishing expedition about how this is a political move trying to win supporters for McCain...Obviously not many people get one especially a woman...

Maybe you should have said what you just said without adding all the extra layers of jackassery in it....then it would make more sense...

Or maybe you thought you was trying to be funny....

Uhhh...no....


You know what...I don't have any more time to entertain your asinine comments today.


Do yourself a solid...click the link and read the entire story...


Ladies, especially those of you that are serving...thank you.

Different take on it....woo hoo, DS!

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Umm...THAT is the point of the WHOLE story....she is the first WOMAN PERIOD..who has gotten one....but then you go off on some bullshit fishing expedition about how this is a political move trying to win supporters for McCain...Obviously not many people get one especially a woman...

Maybe you should have said what you just said without adding all the extra layers of jackassery in it....then it would make more sense...

Or maybe you thought you was trying to be funny....

Uhhh...no....


You know what...I don't have any more time to entertain your asinine comments today.


Do yourself a solid...click the link and read the entire story...


Ladies, especially those of you that are serving...thank you.

Wait - you're rambling here in your apparent outrage, but are you really trying to imply that PhiGam was somehow "demeaning" the accomplishments of this woman by implying that her superiors (whom she presumably has no control over) might be waiting to promote her until it is politically expedient for them to do so?

Because that doesn't seem demeaning in the slightest. I think you're getting steamed for really no reason - and certainly the assertion (while unlikely, in my mind) is far from asinine, isn't it?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Wait - you're rambling here in your apparent outrage, but are you really trying to imply that PhiGam was somehow "demeaning" the accomplishments of this woman by implying that her superiors (whom she presumably has no control over) might be waiting to promote her until it is politically expedient for them to do so?

Because that doesn't seem demeaning in the slightest. I think you're getting steamed for really no reason - and certainly the assertion (while unlikely, in my mind) is far from asinine, isn't it?

I wasn't implying PhiGam's intention...I said it...go back and read what he initially posted...he implied that her promotion was political. And by that implication itself, he demeans what she was awarded especially in absence of evidence to support his 'theory'.

Go back....read...read carefully...it's really not that hard to see.

And I will also request that you do the same thing...don't just read the initial post, please read the entire story.


Women will be proud of this accomplishment and one man should not take away from it.

[pbear19]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned (or did I miss it?) that PhiGam's basic premise is ridiculous in and of itself, regardless of whether it is demeaning or not. To be effective, a political ploy needs to make people more likely to vote for a certain candidate. Does anyone honestly think there are women out there who will decide to vote for McCain simply because the Army decided to promote a deserving woman to 4 star General? None of the women I know are quite that fickle, nor are they quite that illogical as to surmise that A has anything to do with B. If this is a political move intended to benefit McCain, the PR person in charge of it needs to be fired asap.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by pbear19

I'm surprised no one has mentioned (or did I miss it?) that PhiGam's basic premise is ridiculous in and of itself, regardless of whether it is demeaning or not. To be effective, a political ploy needs to make people more likely to vote for a certain candidate. Does anyone honestly think there are women out there who will decide to vote for McCain simply because the Army decided to promote a deserving woman to 4 star General? None of the women I know are quite that fickle, nor are they quite that illogical as to surmise that A has anything to do with B. If this is a political move intended to benefit McCain, the PR person in charge of it needs to be fired asap.

You're being too literal in your definition of "political ploy" - remember that any press is good press, and there is both a specific and general connection between McCain and the military in the minds of almost everyone. A simple, small gesture to give positive light to the military during a slow news cycle (and spawn this kind of discussion) can be effective even if no one literally says "NOW I'm voting McCain!"

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by pbear19

I'm surprised no one has mentioned (or did I miss it?) that PhiGam's basic premise is ridiculous in and of itself, regardless of whether it is demeaning or not. To be effective, a political ploy needs to make people more likely to vote for a certain candidate. Does anyone honestly think there are women out there who will decide to vote for McCain simply because the Army decided to promote a deserving woman to 4 star General? None of the women I know are quite that fickle, nor are they quite that illogical as to surmise that A has anything to do with B. If this is a political move intended to benefit McCain, the PR person in charge of it needs to be fired asap.

Its a subconscious thing, people's minds naturally seek association. If they start to associate the military with things that they view as positive (female accomplishment for example) and they associate the military with a certain presidential candidate (a war hero) then they ARE more likely to vote for that certain candidate then they were before. Admittedly, it does take pretty abstract logic to grasp the concept.
Basically
If Military= good and McCain=military then McCain=good.
Its a classic logical fallacy that political experts (which the military has plenty of) know how to exploit.

And just to repeat: I am NOT demeaning her achievements. My mother and two aunts have served in the armed forces and I have a huge respect for them. I just think that the timing of this is suspect.