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CrackerBarrel · #31 06-17-2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nate2512

To add to this, if you don't mind crackerbarrel, don't make it look like your blatantly using it to up yourself, it'll be on the forms you fill out, so they will know. As far as when to throw it out there, gauge the conversation, like Crackerbarrel said, if someone asked, say it. Don't go around telling every person in the fraternity your a legacy, its a little overkill. Just be smart about it, and use it sparingly and when the time comes. I'm sure you've read other posts about it, but being a legacy does make you entitled to shit. They don't have to pledge you, they sure as hell don't have to initiate you, they don't owe you a thing.

Right, in fact if you make the fact that you're a legacy a big point to everyone you may hurt your chances because it makes it seem like you think you're entitled to a bid.

At our chapter the only legacies who are pretty much assured a bid are younger siblings of active brothers or kids/grandkids of the really big donors who we can't piss off.

EE-BO · #32 06-17-2008, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

At our chapter the only legacies who are pretty much assured a bid are younger siblings of active brothers or kids/grandkids of the really big donors who we can't piss off.

Words of wisdom.

baci · #33 06-17-2008, 08:24 AM

That's life...sad, but true...isn't it? ^^

EE-BO · #34 06-17-2008, 10:36 AM

I dunno, I am ok with things being like that. A chapter has to be able to be very selective about its membership in order to maintain overall quality and reputation.

I think legacy is important in that the son of a fraternity brother is more likely to have parental support for joining one himself. It can also sometimes be an indicator of someone who comes from an environment/background that is desirable.

But beyond that, if a guy is not up to chapter standards I don't care how many of his relatives were in my fraternity- he doesn't need to get a bid unless the potential future financial value to the chapter of his legacy relatives outweighs his own shortcomings. Sounds cold, but all part of the idea of running a chapter like a business.

jon1856 · #35 06-17-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

Right, in fact if you make the fact that you're a legacy a big point to everyone you may hurt your chances because it makes it seem like you think you're entitled to a bid.

At our chapter the only legacies who are pretty much assured a bid are younger siblings of active brothers or kids/grandkids of the really big donors who we can't piss off.

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Originally Posted by EE-BO

Words of wisdom.

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Originally Posted by baci

That's life...sad, but true...isn't it? ^^

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Originally Posted by EE-BO

I dunno, I am ok with things being like that. A chapter has to be able to be very selective about its membership in order to maintain overall quality and reputation.

I think legacy is important in that the son of a fraternity brother is more likely to have parental support for joining one himself. It can also sometimes be an indicator of someone who comes from an environment/background that is desirable.

But beyond that, if a guy is not up to chapter standards I don't care how many of his relatives were in my fraternity- he doesn't need to get a bid unless the potential future financial value to the chapter of his legacy relatives outweighs his own shortcomings. Sounds cold, but all part of the idea of running a chapter like a business.

The points made, in part above, are all very valid. They are valid, in part, because they are the flip side of each other.

Yes you would like to at least show the appearance of keeping a "family" happy. But do you do that with a person who may just be the "black sheep" of a branch of that family?

Interesting balancing act that my chapter fortuitously never had to deal with.

Back to OP, follow some of the rather sound advice above.
Yes, it is alright to bring up your family connection. But remember that discretion can be the key.

CBU Jeff · #36 06-17-2008, 11:30 AM

Back to OP, follow some of the rather sound advice above.
Yes, it is alright to bring up your family connection. But remember that discretion can be the key.[/quote]

I would have to agree. It also depends on the chapter at that school. I would love for my son ( if i end up having a son one day) to be in the same fraternity as me. However, if its an awful chapter at that particular institution, I wouldn't blame him for going somewhere else to find a better fit.

PhiGam · #37 06-17-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SECdomination

I'm going to stop backing you up over in the News & Politics forum soon.

You know I love you

UGAalum94 · #38 06-17-2008, 03:23 PM

With sororities, the grandmother would send a letter introducing the girl going through to chapter. (I think most groups even have a form for it.) Do you all not do that?

Sorority rush seems a lot more paper-based and bureaucratic generally so it's not really surprising that you guys wouldn't, but in this area it saves the person rushing the problem of how much to hype the connection since you could be sure that the chapter knew it without having to drop the info into the conversation with the right people.

It also might be a way to get the guy's name to the chapter early enough that they could invite him to summer rush events. Would the guy look bad if his grandfather sent such a letter?

nittanyalum · #39 06-17-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam

You know I love you

Awwww. Bromance.

PhiGam · #40 06-17-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Awwww. Bromance.

Quiet, yank

nittanyalum · #41 06-18-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SECdomination

Haha, don't make nittanyalum jealous.

Yeah.

wolffootball37 · #42 06-18-2008, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

At our chapter the only legacies who are pretty much assured a bid are younger siblings of active brothers or kids/grandkids of the really big donors who we can't piss off.

I have a question on this, out of curiosity, does this happen allot? And when it does, is the kid usually a pain and end up not get initiated or does it just depend on the individual?

CrackerBarrel · #43 06-18-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wolffootball37

I have a question on this, out of curiosity, does this happen allot? And when it does, is the kid usually a pain and end up not get initiated or does it just depend on the individual?

Most of those kids tend to be pretty cool anyways, but the ones we kind of have to give bids too some learn the ropes and turn out ok, others get cut, about 50/50 I would say. And then the alums understand that we gave them a chance and they didn't do what it took.

Elephant Walk · #44 06-19-2008, 02:50 AM

We had a fat kid that was a super legacy. Turned out to be a pretty cool guy, regardless.

wolffootball37 · #45 06-19-2008, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

Most of those kids tend to be pretty cool anyways, but the ones we kind of have to give bids too some learn the ropes and turn out ok, others get cut, about 50/50 I would say. And then the alums understand that we gave them a chance and they didn't do what it took.

Oh okay cool.