Obama effectively clinches nomination

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

I believe in helping people too. I just don't think it should be at the end of a spear. Individuals and private entities are much, much, much more capable of discerning who is truly in need and who isn't. The government has a trail of horribly run social programs.

If freedom stops when we become irresponsible...what about abortion? Further, what good is freedom when it halts when times get tough? Individuals have a responsibility to look after the welfare of fellow citizens. The government doesn't have the responsibility of making everyone middle class.

What does abortion have to do with anything? And why must being a good neighbor and wanting to help people be "making everyone the middle class"? My point is that this trickle-down crap doesn't work. It should, in theory, but corporate greed often takes over. That's why the Republicans blocked an effort to tax the windfall profits of oil companies, yes? They know that the companies will only pass their tax bill onto consumers, thereby not really accomplishing anything for Joe and Jane Q. Consumer. That's the way the rest of corporate America works as well.

And what of freedom stopping when times get tough? That doesn't just happen economically, you know. My civil freedoms have been infringed upon by this lawless administration, yet I don't see you getting in a tissy about that one.

The way you phrase your answer makes me think you believe anyone who wants to tax wants to give money away and wants to live in a socialist government. I don't. I want to tax, but I want us to be wise about how we spend it. I don't think having some money put away for disasters is wanting to "make everyone middle class", or wanting to fund the military ( I would give the world to these people-- I live among them, and they deserve every blessing in this world for what they do every day) is making everyone middle class. I have a few ideas of my own as to what kind of programs need to be funded, but I think you'd be surprised at what is and what is not on that list.