Blacks that rush NPC

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

You may not, and I'm sure most of the more older and mature graduate members of NPHC orgs may not, but we all know that attitudes are different in the undergraduate level.

My school probably has the most diverse IFC/NPC membership of any school, and yet my Black grand-big sister has had instances where she has been treated condescendingly by NPHC sorority members when they discover she belongs to an NPC sorority.

Some people need to stop living in this Utopian GC world where everyone accepts everyone and everyone gets along, because that is not the case in real life.

Eh...there is no Utopian GC world. AKA Monet is talking about something much greater than what you're talking about. And the greater point resonates with both undergraduate and graduate NPHC members. Not all but enough for there to be a greater point.

Yes, there are undergraduate NPHCers who give blacks in the NPC a raised eyebrow. I was one of them years ago (and I give them a raised eyebrow now) because of the intolerant climate on my campus, and others, and the reputation of some of the fraternities on campus. The 2 black men in HWGLOs on my campus were told they were "different" and we couldn't understand why anyone would want to be in a chapter where they are being validated as being "different (from the rest of the blacks that these dudes knew)." The two black guys in the 2 fraternities were cool as hell (one of them had an Omega father) and they learned not to separate themselves from the other blacks, just because they were feeling like they had to be "different." There were no NPHC frats chartered on the campus, anyway, and they chose not to pursue membership through another chapter---who cares? We didn't ask them about their fraternity and they never shared info--we just wanted to connect on a people level with men who were really not "different" when they realized that they weren't under the scrutiny of their fraternity brothers when they were around us.

The one black girl in an NPC sorority on campus was received a certain way because she was afraid to talk to black people. We continuously tried to engage her because we knew she was probably a very nice person. One day we asked her about her experience (this was probably before we were in NPHC orgs ourselves) and she cheerfully (always cheerful because she's such a sweetheart) confessed that she wasn't used to being around black people. She's the nicest person in the world and her heart was always in the right place.

My problem: If you want to pursue a nonNPHC organization, most of us at the undergrad and grad level TRULY don't give a damn beyond making the initial observation. But if you're doing it because you've been touted as "different," because you're not used to be around blacks, or are afraid of blacks then YES people will respond to you accordingly. That's not about being in the NPC or IFC, that's about YOU.

And for blacks in the NPC who say they don't have to explain themselves or they did what makes them happy and seek no validation, I beg to differ in many cases.

[PANTHERTEKE]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

My problem: If you want to pursue a nonNPHC organization, most of us at the undergrad and grad level TRULY don't give a damn beyond making the initial observation. But if you're doing it because you've been touted as "different," because you're not used to be around blacks, or are afraid of blacks then YES people will respond to you accordingly. That's not about being in the NPC or IFC, that's about YOU.

So, you would raise an eyebrow at Molly Minority because she was raised in a predominantly White neighborhood, went to predominantly White schools, had mostly White friends, and decided to join ABC NPC org?

Look, I think the mission and purpose of NPHC orgs are great in addition to the reason as to why they were founded. But sometimes I feel as if though members get so caught up in "We do so much for the AfAm community! Why do some Black girls go NPC?!?!" (AKAMonet) that they fail to remember that the FUNDAMENTAL purpose of ANY fraternity or sorority is to feel at home and find YOUR brotherhood/sisterhood.

How can Molly Minority be successful in XYZ NPHC org if her heart isn't in it?

[tld221]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

So, you would raise an eyebrow at Molly Minority because she was raised in a predominantly White neighborhood, went to predominantly White schools, had mostly White friends, and decided to join ABC NPC org?

Look, I think the mission and purpose of NPHC orgs are great in addition to the reason as to why they were founded. But sometimes I feel as if though members get so caught up in "We do so much for the AfAm community! Why do some Black girls go NPC?!?!" (AKAMonet) that they fail to remember that the FUNDAMENTAL purpose of ANY fraternity or sorority is to feel at home and find YOUR brotherhood/sisterhood.

How can Molly Minority be successful in XYZ NPHC org if her heart isn't in it?

I can agree with this. Anytime an interest gives me spiel about "wanting to give back to the community" and what not, i tell them to go join NAACP or NCNW. Yes, we are service organizations but we serve social outlets just as much. Playing up too much on one or the other can be a turn off for potential members.

Such as the case at a Greek 101 i attended. One NPHC sorority, every time she answered a question from the audience, always brought it back to how much of a "business" the organization is and that the fun aspects dont matter if the business isnt right, etc. even as the event ended, this chapter's table only displayed the business side of their accomplishments - awards received, pictures with politicians, and some scant pamphlets. There was no chit-chat, it was so no-nonsense. Some of those girls left looking a little let-down.

When youre talking to a room full of undergraduates, that can be a little daunting. Of course they have to know that our organizations require work and obligations, but they have to also know that they are going to enjoy it too.

ETA: i personally dont mind if Molly Minority joins an NPC. for some, the research and all that jazz isnt that deep. they want their sisterhood, they want their parties, and they want it their first week of their freshman year. whatever works for you Molly. some folks dont have time or patience to be waiting on XYZ to come back to campus. and who are we to judge, regardless of the status of OUR chapter membership?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by tld221

ETA: i personally dont mind if Molly Minority joins an NPC. for some, the research and all that jazz isnt that deep. they want their sisterhood, they want their parties, and they want it their first week of their freshman year. whatever works for you Molly. some folks dont have time or patience to be waiting on XYZ to come back to campus. and who are we to judge, regardless of the status of OUR chapter membership?

Haha...the bolded in the context of the unbolded is like smiling while you slap the crap out of someone.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Haha...the bolded in the context of the unbolded is like smiling while you slap the crap out of someone.

haha. well, im just saying. i really didnt mean any cynicism there. perhaps ive gotten so cynical that i dont realize it when i type.

and we ALL know that one AfAm, PantherTEKE. let them do them. they aint worried about us.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by tld221

and we ALL know that one AfAm, PantherTEKE. let them do them. they aint worried about us.

teehee

They all "do them" until they get reminded that they're black. Then they want to "do us." But we're open arms.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

teehee

They all "do them" until they get reminded that they're black. Then they want to "do us." But we're open arms.

((((((DSTChaos)))))) you dont even know.

[PANTHERTEKE]

Originally Posted by tld221

and we ALL know that one AfAm, PantherTEKE. let them do them. they aint worried about us.

Oh, I know. Those posts were more for the NPHC members who took it personal and seem to get offended when a Black person goes NPC or NIC.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

Oh, I know. Those posts were more for the NPHC members who took it personal and seem to get offended when a Black person goes NPC or NIC.

Whoever those people are. Most NPHC chapters aren't starving for members.

[starang21]

i joined to bang white g.....

wait, wrong board.

nevermind.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

.....like smiling while you slap the crap out of someone.

I imagine that you are good at this IRL.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I imagine that you are good at this IRL.

No.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

So, you would raise an eyebrow at Molly Minority because she was raised in a predominantly White neighborhood, went to predominantly White schools, had mostly White friends, and decided to join ABC NPC org?

What do "predominantly" and "mostly" mean as it relates to not being used to being around black people or not being able to relate to black people?

[PANTHERTEKE]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

What do "predominantly" and "mostly" mean as it relates to not being used to being around black people or not being able to relate to black people?

Meaning.... she grew up with limited exposure to AfAm culture, never really hung out with any other black girls, had little to nothing in common with other black people, etc.

ETA: And consequently would not feel at home in an NPHC sorority.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

Meaning.... she grew up with limited exposure to AfAm culture, never really hung out with any other black girls, had little to nothing in common with other black people, etc.

Sucks to be her.

But "predominantly" and "mostly" don't have to mean that. When people allow it to mean that, that's their fault.