Michelle Obama rumor- October surprise

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I wasn't thinking so much in terms of arguments to make to persuade others which is what I think you are saying with "cards to play"; I'm just constantly reminded about how little is actually there with him.

I don't think Obama and I share a sense of what the government's role ought to be, and that's primarily why I won't vote for him, but when I contrast him with Hillary, who I also wouldn't ever vote for, I'm struck by the contrast. I think she has specific ideas about what government should do and would somewhat ruthlessly get things done, and I'm not even sure if he has the first idea about how to translate the rhetoric and image into actually doing anything.

And while I think Obama's sense of foreign policy is a little delusional in terms of the power of negotiation, the only area where I think his presidency would be truly dangerous is in judicial appointments, which isn't something that fires that many people up these days as far as I know.

I agree mostly, but I do think Obama has the depth many think he lacks. I just think he is too smart to put it on display.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I agree mostly, but I do think Obama has the depth many think he lacks. I just think he is too smart to put it on display.

What are you going on? Is it something I could read or is it more from talking to people who aren't really going to go on record?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

What are you going on? Is it something I could read or is it more from talking to people who aren't really going to go on record?

UGAalum, he's written two books. And they weren't ghostwritten either.

So apparently this "surprise" video is actually Michelle Obama talking about George Bush and saying "Why'd he" not "Whitey"

Unless there's another one which is probably just as silly.

[AKA_Monet]

I'm baaack!!!

A picture's worth a 1000 words!!!



Welcome to the land of "real"...

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I'm baaack!!!

A picture's worth a 1000 words!!!



Welcome to the land of "real"...

I hope you're really fired up because the republican war machine is going to drag that man through the mud. How long until Obama is a running joke on South Park?

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I hope you're really fired up because the republican war machine is going to drag that man through the mud. How long until Obama is a running joke on South Park?

HAHAHAHA!! That show is great for that kind of stuff!!!

Each time I see the battles for this election on TV I think about the douchebag vs. terd sandwich episode.

A quick run down for those who dont know what I'm talking about before anyone gets offended (but you might anyway)---The kids of south park had to choose a new school mascot and they had to pick between a douchebag and a terd sandwich. Each side had their own campaigns going door to door etc. Stan didnt like either choice and didnt want to vote for either so he was outcast from south park. Once he's finally let back in his realization is that he might as well learn to pick between a douchebag and a terd sandwich because that's usually the only choice you're going to have. This episode came out not too long after the 2004 election I believe.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24

HAHAHAHA!! That show is great for that kind of stuff!!!

Each time I see the battles for this election on TV I think about the douchebag vs. terd sandwich episode.

A quick run down for those who dont know what I'm talking about before anyone gets offended (but you might anyway)---The kids of south park had to choose a new school mascot and they had to pick between a douchebag and a terd sandwich. Each side had their own campaigns going door to door etc. Stan didnt like either choice and didnt want to vote for either so he was outcast from south park. Once he's finally let back in his realization is that he might as well learn to pick between a douchebag and a terd sandwich because that's usually the only choice you're going to have. This episode came out not too long after the 2004 election I believe.

I think the Vote or Die tie-in is the best part of this episode.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I hope you're really fired up because the republican war machine is going to drag that man through the mud. How long until Obama is a running joke on South Park?

Comedians Chris Rock & Bernie Mac have better interpretations for me... Especially on their movie of "Head of State".

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

UGAalum, he's written two books. And they weren't ghostwritten either.

Right, but it seems to point back to rhetoric rather than reality. The skills it takes to write inspirational somewhat political books and what it might actually take to govern and get stuff done may not be the same skill set.

Shinerbock seems to believe Obama will actually get stuff done and I'm curious why Shinerbock believes it. Anyone else is welcome to answer but reference to Obama writing books doesn't really deliver what I'm looking for.

(I think this is coming off as snippier than I mean it to. I'm not blowing your comments off because I generally find them interesting and insightful. It just seems like you're responding to a different question than I asked.)

[shinerbock]

UGA, I'm not willing to say he'll "get stuff done," but I do think he has a pretty concrete agenda. I don't think he spouts fluff because there is nothing below the surface, I think he does that because what is below the surface isn't mainstream, easily-consumable liberalism. I think he is aligned with the fringe extreme-left most often represented in the realm of academia.

Maybe I'm wrong, and he's a typical opportunist who won't stray too far, like Hillary. But I certainly have my doubts. If he's elected, to start, I expect radical increases in taxation, new gun control legislation, increased deference to foreign authority, and jurists who are very flexible with constitutional interpretation. There is little doubt that he'll promote larger government and more socialistic economic policy. The only questions are how significant the shifts will be, and whether he'll be successful.

Unfortunately, Democrats will likely have large majorities in both houses, and thus I find it more important than ever to keep them from having a complete grip on both Congress and the Exec.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

So apparently this "surprise" video is actually Michelle Obama talking about George Bush and saying "Why'd he" not "Whitey"

Good gracious.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

So apparently this "surprise" video is actually Michelle Obama talking about George Bush and saying "Why'd he" not "Whitey"

In other words, my Whitney comment wasn't too far off. LOL.