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Originally Posted by sigmadiva
But then, I think this speaks to another issue others have brought up - where should this issue be decided - in the courts, in the legislature, at the state level or at the federal level.
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THE STATES! I am totally liberal, HOWEVER, I am all about state rights. I think having this legal in California is great, and having it illegal in Mississippi is just fine. I do think however that a marriage initiated by one state should be recognized by all. I think that with gay-marriage or not.
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Dude, relax. Sometimes you gotta get sarcasm.
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I know you were sarcastic, but that was just a hot button for me. Something else that really gets my goat.
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Heterosexuals live together all the time. I think in Texas if a heterosexual couple lives together for at least 10 years, carries on like they are married and presents themselves to the public like they are married then for all intensive purposes in the eyes of the law they are married.
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Yup, a common law marriage
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As I understand it from God's point of view his view of marriage is pretty cut and dry - one man, one woman that have stated vows / made a commitment in his eyes. There are some very specific versus in the Bible that define marriage. I don't have my Bible in front of me to give them to you.
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I was not saying it is condoned by God, I merely saying, they are living their life together like any other couple. I do not think God cares about how the law defines it. God probably sees it as a marriage, at least the act of marriage, and yes, if God is anti-gay marriage, then I am sure God is pretty upset about it. You see what I am saying?
MY MERE POINT is... Spiritually, gays can have the ceremony and get the preacher to unite them, and we won't REALLY know how burnt God's cheese is until we ascend on to Heaven (or to descend). As far as earth term's are concerned, the spiritual marriages are happening in churches and tacky beach resorts across the country. The issue is with being recognized by the law, not the religion.
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That's been tried before in the history of man. I don't think we want to re-visit that again. Very messy.
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Phew... although, I do not mind moving to Canada!!!
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Yeah, but the very idea of a gay marriage irks some people.
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Yes, I know, but the people it irks, it doesn't effect... so this irks me. However, acceptance has come along way in the last 30 years (thanks to AIDS

) and so hopefully 30 years from now it will be that much more accepting