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06-02-2008, 12:47 PM
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Because you have some hard core Christians out there who feel that it is their God-given duty to ensure everyone gets to heaven by saving the world from all types of sin.
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Do you believe that the license to marry will increase homosexuality?
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06-02-2008, 12:56 PM
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Do you believe that the license to marry will increase homosexuality?
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Nope. I just don't agree with gays being married for moral and religious reasons.
oh, and btw, I don't consider myself one of those hard core Christians.
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06-02-2008, 01:16 PM
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Nope. I just don't agree with gays being married for moral and religious reasons.
oh, and btw, I don't consider myself one of those hard core Christians.
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Do you disagree with a homosexual couple living together, having sex, and raising children? Or do you disagree with such a couple having tax, medical, and other legal benefits? The religious arguments I know of are against only the former, which only makes sense to me if one believes that homosexuality itself will be increased by the latter.
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06-02-2008, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by laylo
Do you disagree with a homosexual couple living together, having sex, and raising children? Or do you disagree with such a couple having tax, medical, and other legal benefits? The religious arguments I know of are against only the former, which only makes sense to me if one believes that homosexuality itself will be increased by the latter.
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Look, I don't care how people carry on in their private and daily lives. As long as they are not doing anything that one would consider extremely immoral or illegal, I really don't care.
So, if little Johnny has two mommies or two daddies, I don't care. Their lifestyle does not impact mine.
And quite frankly the whole issue of taxes and medical care does not bother me either. You know why? Because no matter the issue taxes will go up and medical insurance companies will charge more for fewer services - whether you are single, married, have kids, don't have kids....
Like I've said over and over again in this thread, if given the opportunity to cast a vote on the issue I will vote against it. Not for tax reasons, not for medical reasons, not because I feel Johnny should have a mommy and a daddy (well, I do think all kids need both a mom and a dad, but I know that does not happen). I will vote against gay marriage because for me it is a moral and religious issue.
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06-02-2008, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sigmadiva
Look, I don't care how people carry on in their private and daily lives. As long as they are not doing anything that one would consider extremely immoral or illegal, I really don't care.
So, if little Johnny has two mommies or two daddies, I don't care. Their lifestyle does not impact mine.
And quite frankly the whole issue of taxes and medical care does not bother me either. You know why? Because no matter the issue taxes will go up and medical insurance companies will charge more for fewer services - whether you are single, married, have kids, don't have kids....
Like I've said over and over again in this thread, if given the opportunity to cast a vote on the issue I will vote against it. Not for tax reasons, not for medical reasons, not because I feel Johnny should have a mommy and a daddy (well, I do think all kids need both a mom and a dad, but I know that does not happen). I will vote against gay marriage because for me it is a moral and religious issue.
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I'm not trying to challenge your beliefs. I just don't understand the percieved relationship between the moral/religious issue and the legal understanding of marriage. I was hoping that, Christian-to-Christian, you might shed some light on it for me. If you're tired of explaining yourself, ok.
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06-02-2008, 01:55 PM
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I'm not trying to challenge your beliefs. I just don't understand the percieved relationship between the moral/religious issue and the legal understanding of marriage.
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I think it depends on how the individual views marriage. Some have expressed in this thread that they view it as purely a legal definition - thus there are no religious and/or moral connection for them. Some people see marriage strictly in a religious sense. Me? I fall somewhere in between. I see the legal and the moral/religious issues, but I tend to favor more towards the moral / religious side.
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I was hoping that, Christian-to-Christian, you might shed some light on it for me. If you're tired of explaining yourself, ok.
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I think it just depends on how one defines marriage with respect to their religion. You have some religious folks who do not believe in mixed marriages -Catholics and non-Catholics, Christian and Jews.
And yeah, I am getting tired of explaining the same thing I've been saying since page 10 of this thread. I think people keep trying to go at it from different angles hoping to get a different answer.
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06-02-2008, 02:34 PM
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I think it depends on how the individual views marriage. Some have expressed in this thread that they view it as purely a legal definition - thus there are no religious and/or moral connection for them. Some people see marriage strictly in a religious sense. Me? I fall somewhere in between. I see the legal and the moral/religious issues, but I tend to favor more towards the moral / religious side.
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I just mean what's being decided in court, which is the legal definition. According to my beliefs marriage is indeed a spiritual union, but no one is voting on whether or not people can go through a spiritual ceremony, have a sexual relationship, or share a life as one. All that you would be voting against is legal benefits.
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06-02-2008, 01:43 PM
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Do you disagree with a homosexual couple living together, having sex, and raising children? Or do you disagree with such a couple having tax, medical, and other legal benefits? The religious arguments I know of are against only the former, which only makes sense to me if one believes that homosexuality itself will be increased by the latter.
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no, no, probably, no, no, no.
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06-02-2008, 01:54 PM
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no, no, probably, no, no, no.
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LOL. At least you're consistent.
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