Why do LGLO/MCGLOs follow NPHC practices?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

^^^Ehhhh....... if you have line-ups, you have a pledge line, even if you don't call it that or order them by height.

If you sat in a circle, made crafts, and got gifts for four weeks, then yeah, you didn't have a line. (No shade, seriously)

I want you to expound on this for the sake of thread clarity.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I want you to expound on this for the sake of thread clarity.

Certainly.

As I've said in other places around GC (but I of course am not so puffed up that I expect people to remember), I am a brother of Alpha Phi Omega as well as Alpha Phi Alpha.

I pledged APO first, and much to my surprise, I was lined up according to height and pledged on a pledge line. I earned a "nickname" but I would later learn that there was no distinguishable difference between a nickname and a line name. (I pledged Alpha four years after APO.)

I neither pledged at an HBCU nor to a chapter which at any point in its history was influenced by BGLOs, in case you were wondering. I also pledged at a school which, at that time, had no NIC or similar fraternities.

When I attended grad school, I saw that the gentlemen in the NIC fraternities also had nicknames. As I got older, I saw that men in NIC fraternities were pledged in ways similar to my APO and Alpha experiences.

I peeked at DSTCHAOS' post and can cosign it -- everybody does things differently and we might not know unless we're there. Sometimes these things have different names, but are essentially the same things. Sometimes these things are VASTLY different but have the same name.

Even though each NPHC org has MIP, some people's MIP still includes lining up and being pledged. Others don't. The name has changed (pledging) but some traditions endure.

I guess what I am wondering is what NIC or NPC people feel is the fundamental difference between a line and a pledge class?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Certainly.

As I've said in other places around GC (but I of course am not so puffed up that I expect people to remember), I am a brother of Alpha Phi Omega as well as Alpha Phi Alpha.

I pledged APO first, and much to my surprise, I was lined up according to height and pledged on a pledge line. I earned a "nickname" but I would later learn that there was no distinguishable difference between a nickname and a line name. (I pledged Alpha four years after APO.)

I neither pledged at an HBCU nor to a chapter which at any point in its history was influenced by BGLOs, in case you were wondering. I also pledged at a school which, at that time, had no NIC or similar fraternities.

When I attended grad school, I saw that the gentlemen in the NIC fraternities also had nicknames. As I got older, I saw that men in NIC fraternities were pledged in ways similar to my APO and Alpha experiences.

I peeked at DSTCHAOS' post and can cosign it -- everybody does things differently and we might not know unless we're there. Sometimes these things have different names, but are essentially the same things. Sometimes these things are VASTLY different but have the same name.

Even though each NPHC org has MIP, some people's MIP still includes lining up and being pledged. Others don't. The name has changed (pledging) but some traditions endure.

I guess what I am wondering is what NIC or NPC people feel is the fundamental difference between a line and a pledge class?

Gotcha gotcha gotcha

The second line of your other post just made me smirk so I was wondering where you were headed.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Certainly.

As I've said in other places around GC (but I of course am not so puffed up that I expect people to remember), I am a brother of Alpha Phi Omega as well as Alpha Phi Alpha.

I pledged APO first, and much to my surprise, I was lined up according to height and pledged on a pledge line. I earned a "nickname" but I would later learn that there was no distinguishable difference between a nickname and a line name. (I pledged Alpha four years after APO.)

I neither pledged at an HBCU nor to a chapter which at any point in its history was influenced by BGLOs, in case you were wondering. I also pledged at a school which, at that time, had no NIC or similar fraternities.

When I attended grad school, I saw that the gentlemen in the NIC fraternities also had nicknames. As I got older, I saw that men in NIC fraternities were pledged in ways similar to my APO and Alpha experiences.

I peeked at DSTCHAOS' post and can cosign it -- everybody does things differently and we might not know unless we're there. Sometimes these things have different names, but are essentially the same things. Sometimes these things are VASTLY different but have the same name.

Even though each NPHC org has MIP, some people's MIP still includes lining up and being pledged. Others don't. The name has changed (pledging) but some traditions endure.

I guess what I am wondering is what NIC or NPC people feel is the fundamental difference between a line and a pledge class?

The name.

ETA: What PANTHERTEKE said.

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

And to Senusret I, there is no fundamental difference between a "line" and a "pledge class." Its just different terms.