Why do LGLO/MCGLOs follow NPHC practices?

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Due to some legal issues that came up, I'm not really at liberty to discuss this situation. But, suffice it to say, I am 100% certain that they were deliberately infringing on Theta Nu Xi.

If that's the case, then good - you definitely do have the right to be upset with them, and take them to legal action. As to Ch2tf: see what one of your national officers wrote above. This is part of the reason I said what I did - you aren't willing to step out and prove it, or say anything besides "We are sure! But we will NOT tell you how!" Of course, if it's private, it's private - but if you won't explain why, then you lose the right to use it as an example of an infringement.

Again, what I was talking about was organizational. You're talking about "the NPHC." And, I don't want to delve too far into it, but ALL of our organizations are incorporated and NPHC organizations do not all officially use the term "aspirant." I realize these are simply examples you used, but you seem to be missing my point.
See the post from rhoyaltempest that I quoted below this one, and then explain to me why your opinion in this thread (ie, that you have never stolen anything from anyone, and your organization, including what I mentioned earlier in this thread, is completely accurate...yet, in the thread "Incorporated" from a week or two ago, you admitted that you took that tradition.

Given what you've posted thus far in this thread, I wouldn't expect you to understand why a non-DST DeltaDiva would raise eyebrows.

I can see that. What I also see is that, judging by YOUR posts, you have no conception of the idea that NPCs also have something to offer, and that many of us are part of organizations that are well over a hundred years old. Frankly, I have no problem with DSTs calling themselves a "DeltaDiva". What I DO have the problem with is your idea that ONLY a DST has that right...because (surprise!) there are actually other organizations out there with Delta as an identifying letter.

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I can appreciate your responses and explanations regarding how you feel about your org's Incorporation but IMO your org (like many others today) stresses the "Innnnnnnnncorporated" (and did so initially) because NPHC orgs traditionally do and people think it's cool, as I'm sure your founders did. And there's nothing wrong with this but...let's be real.

I agree - let's be real.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

Frankly, I have no problem with DSTs calling themselves a "DeltaDiva". What I DO have the problem with is your idea that ONLY a DST has that right...because (surprise!) there are actually other organizations out there with Delta as an identifying letter.

c'mon now...you get the point...stop protesting just to protest.

ETA: I've always disliked the "Delta Diva" association for some reason (I'm not annoyed by other "diva" references, including its origin). But I know that many people who are familiar with the NPHC would think DST rather than Tri-Delt if they saw "Delta Diva" or "Divastating Delta" username. Just like there's a Kappa on here named G-Kue 1911 (*waving*) and ladygreek commented on how organizationally ambiguous his username his. If it was G-Que 1911, which there is an Omega who goes by that, he'd possibly be an Omega as far as we're concerned.

All that is neither here nor there because we were never talking about policing people as if opinions translate to anything more than opinions. We're talking about commonly held associations. I still agree with you and rhoyaltempest about INNNNNNNNcorporated, despite what preciousjeni says.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

c'mon now...you get the point...stop protesting just to protest.

She might honestly not know about "Diva." She refers back to "Delta."

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

See the post from rhoyaltempest that I quoted below this one, and then explain to me why your opinion in this thread (ie, that you have never stolen anything from anyone, and your organization, including what I mentioned earlier in this thread, is completely accurate...yet, in the thread "Incorporated" from a week or two ago, you admitted that you took that tradition.

I was responding to your comment here:

Originally Posted by fantASTic

I do find it funny, though, when a MCGLO gets angry because another MCGLO is 'copying' them, but they do things like say, "XYZ INCORPORATED!", put on step shows and do other things that are definitely traditionally associated with the BGLOs.

Organizations develop traditions on top of other traditions, as I mentioned in the incorporated thread. Every Greek organization in this country has borrowed from a previously founded organization, INCLUDING Theta Nu Xi. I do not dispute that. However, that's very different from "stealing" an organization-specific tradition; by that I mean going in and saying, "I like that from Alpha Sigma Tau and I like that from Delta Sigma Theta" as we all have our unique identities. If you look at the way we carry out Greek traditions, you will find that there are differences from the way that NPCs, BGLOs, LGLOs, etc. do things. My organization participates in Greek traditions, but we do not "steal" other organizations' identities.

And, I'll say this here too...my organization is composed of women who were brought up in various Greek traditions. They carry these traditions into their membership in Theta Nu Xi. That is the nature of a multicultural sorority.

...judging by YOUR posts, you have no conception of the idea that NPCs also have something to offer, and that many of us are part of organizations that are well over a hundred years old.

Whoa! Where have you ever seen me make any such assertion?

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

If that's the case, then good - you definitely do have the right to be upset with them, and take them to legal action. As to Ch2tf: see what one of your national officers wrote above. This is part of the reason I said what I did - you aren't willing to step out and prove it, or say anything besides "We are sure! But we will NOT tell you how!" Of course, if it's private, it's private - but if you won't explain why, then you lose the right to use it as an example of an infringement.

I'm well aware what preciousjeni wrote and what she wrote does not refute what I said. Because we are not here on GC talking about the situation publically in a thread does not mean it cannot be proven. PJ has given you additional information as to why it's not being talked about publically. You don't have to like it or believe, but you damn sure can't tell me how to feel about it or what to do about it.

And since were most recently on/reading that somewhat old thread now, you should've also seen that there was a great deal edited (due to a situation that arose post mention in the thread).

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

If that's the case, then good - you definitely do have the right to be upset with them, and take them to legal action. As to Ch2tf: see what one of your national officers wrote above. This is part of the reason I said what I did - you aren't willing to step out and prove it, or say anything besides "We are sure! But we will NOT tell you how!" Of course, if it's private, it's private - but if you won't explain why, then you lose the right to use it as an example of an infringement.

I agree - let's be real.

That's bull. You don't need to know their ritual to see that Phi Nu Xi was going for the "ONE" look and mimicked everything about Theta Nu Xi. You might be unfamiliar with the situation, but your lack of knowledge doesn't mean the whole thing was kept under super secret wraps. They had a website, it was blatant, and based on the comments here there are legal proceedings from it.

If that's not enough for you, fine; but they do not "lose the right" to use it as an example of infringement.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

That's bull. You don't need to know their ritual to see that Phi Nu Xi was going for the "ONE" look and mimicked everything about Theta Nu Xi. You might be unfamiliar with the situation, but your lack of knowledge doesn't mean the whole thing was kept under super secret wraps. They had a website, it was blatant, and based on the comments here there are legal proceedings from it.

If that's not enough for you, fine; but they do not "lose the right" to use it as an example of infringement.

For the record, here's the EXACT type of situation I've been talking about in this thread, but it's an NPC sorority that's being ripped-off:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...19#post1655119