"Incorporated"

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Woops, didn't see this one. You're absolutely right. Submitting the paperwork is the easy part. The hard part is getting an organization to the point that it can sustain a corporation. That's what we celebrate when we holler "Theta Nu Xi Multicultural Sorority, Innnnnnnncorporated!"

I can appreciate your responses and explanations regarding how you feel about your org's Incorporation but IMO your org (like many others today) stresses the "Innnnnnnnncorporated" (and did so initially) because NPHC orgs traditionally do and people think it's cool, as I'm sure your founders did. And there's nothing wrong with this but...let's be real.

[H0NEY1987]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

There are a number of benefits, but the two I find most important are:

1) A corporation is its own entity, separate from the owners/founders. So, there is a layer of protection against lawsuits and such. If you're not incorporated, you can personally be sued.

2) Because the corporation is its own entity, it continues on after leadership changes (or even after the death of the founders).

I'd recommend going online to research what incorporation entails and how to do it. You wouldn't need to ask these questions if you'd familiarize yourself with Google.

that is helpful, thanks!

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Woops, didn't see this one. You're absolutely right. Submitting the paperwork is the easy part. The hard part is getting an organization to the point that it can sustain a corporation. That's what we celebrate when we holler "Theta Nu Xi Multicultural Sorority, Innnnnnnncorporated!"

''sustain a corporation'' what does that mean, if you can explain it?

[neosoul]

Originally Posted by H0NEY1987

that is helpful, thanks!


''sustain a corporation'' what does that mean, if you can explain it?

sustaining an organization is very important especially if you are up and coming.

Zeta Phi Beta Sorority was founded in 1920, and soon thereafter the great depression hit, so you can imagine at that point being in a sorority WAS TRULY a luxury. Chapters were moved around and people came in and left, but those were hard times. Now Zeta boasts of a membership of over 100,000 college educated women and our list of accomplishments is long, so when EYE say Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, INNNNNCORPORATED, its meaningful to me

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I can appreciate your responses and explanations regarding how you feel about your org's Incorporation but IMO your org (like many others today) stresses the "Innnnnnnnncorporated" (and did so initially) because NPHC orgs traditionally do and people think it's cool, as I'm sure your founders did. And there's nothing wrong with this but...let's be real.

NPHC orgs originated many Greek traditions as did non-NPHC orgs. Newer orgs were influenced by the established Greek traditions and adopted certain traditions, assigning meanings to them that are relevant to the orgs. So, for example, you have organizations that only salute (no stepping/strolling), but have adopted "Innnncorporated." We all learn from each other. However, I don't know of many viable newer organizations that adopt traditions simply because they "think it's cool" without really considering the effect.

Again, I can only speak for Theta Nu Xi, but we understand where this particular tradition came from within BGLOs. I realize that members of mainstream organizations often have in their minds that members of younger organizations have no grounding in history. The truth is that, at least for Theta Nu Xi, we are serious about what we're doing and we don't take things lightly. This isn't a game.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

NPHC orgs originated many Greek traditions as did non-NPHC orgs. Newer orgs were influenced by the established Greek traditions and adopted certain traditions, assigning meanings to them that are relevant to the orgs. So, for example, you have organizations that only salute (no stepping/strolling), but have adopted "Innnncorporated." We all learn from each other. However, I don't know of many viable newer organizations that adopt traditions simply because they "think it's cool" without really considering the effect.

Again, I can only speak for Theta Nu Xi, but we understand where this particular tradition came from within BGLOs. I realize that members of mainstream organizations often have in their minds that members of younger organizations have no grounding in history. The truth is that, at least for Theta Nu Xi, we are serious about what we're doing and we don't take things lightly. This isn't a game.

You didn't refute what rhoyaltempest said.

While some of you know why "Incorporated" is said, I say "some" because not even all NPHCers know why it is said, Theta Nu Xi and other organizations are young and didn't exist at a time where being incorporated was a huge feat for certain types of organizations.

So even if you all know the significance behind "Innnnnncorporated," the reason you are actually saying it is because of the BGLO tradition of saying it. If not for that, it would be another unspoken fact about your organization as it usually is with NPC and IFC organizations.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

You didn't refute what rhoyaltempest said.

While some of you know why "Incorporated" is said, I say "some" because not even all NPHCers know why it is said, Theta Nu Xi and other organizations are young and didn't exist at a time where being incorporated was a huge feat for certain types of organizations.

So even if you all know the significance behind "Innnnnncorporated," the reason you are actually saying it is because of the BGLO tradition of saying it. If not for that, it would be another unspoken fact about your organization as it usually is with NPC and IFC organizations.

I wasn't trying to refute! I was agreeing.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I wasn't trying to refute! I was agreeing.

Okay. I re-read your post and see what you were trying to say.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Okay. It read like you were trying to say "we know the NPHC influence on stuff but we don't do it because NPHC does it and it's cool, we do it because we respect our history."

To clarify, I was saying that younger orgs adopt NPHC (and non-NPHC traditions), but make them their own so that they are relevant. I took issue with the comment that we think it's "cool" and that's why we do it when, in fact, we do it because we recognize and appreciate the history and wish to emulate the positives while connecting to the historical stream of Greek Life. We contextualize the traditions for our own organizations to carry them out in unique ways as well as building our own traditions.

As has been noted elsewhere, many NPHC (and non-NPHC) traditions were borrowed from predecessors, but the traditions were adapted to the organizations that took them on. Within Theta Nu Xi, we have women who were brought up in other Greek traditions. They bring that background to the table when they join, which is why you'll see an amalgamation of traditions that have been adopted from those who went before.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Okay. I re-read your post and see what you were trying to say.

Read this too late. By the way, what's up with the smiles? You're freaking me out. LOL!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Read this too late. By the way, what's up with the smiles? You're freaking me out. LOL!