Kappa Beta Gamma/Kappa Delta

[AOII Angel]

By the way, I looked at the "What's New?" section of the KGB website and found something really funny.
http://www.kappabetagamma.org/News.htm

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

By the way, I looked at the "What's New?" section of the KGB website and found something really funny.
http://www.kappabetagamma.org/News.htm

When was the last time anyone updated the website? 2004? Is it that hard to update a website? I think not.

A few months ago, I don't know if it was BootyKBG or another member, but a member said that they are committed to their plans to expand to more and more campuses. If that's true, then why no updated website? That's the first thing people look at when they want to know more about you.

Instead of national officers putting former chapters and members on blast, perhaps they might find better use of their time improving their leadership and internal affairs of their organization.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by OTW

When was the last time anyone updated the website? 2004? Is it that hard to update a website? I think not.

A few months ago, I don't know if it was BootyKBG or another member, but a member said that they are committed to their plans to expand to more and more campuses. If that's true, then why no updated website? That's the first thing people look at when they want to know more about you.

Instead of national officers putting former chapters and members on blast, perhaps they might find better use of their time improving their leadership and internal affairs of their organization.

Actually, the website is a bit updated (just still looks old). I clicked the link in one of the earlier posts prior to today and their website was about 2 pages. Now there's links for alumni, "members only", how to start a chapter, national officer contact info, pictures of chapters and alumni (the photo properties are dated today). I believe this thread has brought inspiration and a sense of urgency to some folks!

[DSTCHAOS]

<------ thought "1951 joiner" was in reference to pledge year. Didn't think 33girl had been a member that long so I am glad that I now know a little of what that means.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

By the way, I looked at the "What's New?" section of the KGB website and found something really funny.
http://www.kappabetagamma.org/News.htm

Even better: http://www.kappabetagamma.org/Photo%...u%20Photos.htm

[33girl]

I can think of NPC groups (yeah, one of them was mine) who went a similarly long time without updating their websites. Who had few, if any, traveling consultants.

No one came on here and cracked on them or said "wow, isn't that funny."

It wasn't someone from KBG who brought up the question of whether this chapter was disloyal or whether they had conducted things as they should, it was someone who had no dog in the fight (so to speak). KD members defended their new sisters, and a KBG member responded with their side of the story.

And like I said, if I seem leaning a little more to one side than the other, it's because my sorority has had issues with promises made by NPC and not followed through.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by 33girl

And like I said, if I seem leaning a little more to one side than the other, it's because my sorority has had issues with promises made by NPC and not followed through.

From 1951??

[chitownxo]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I can think of NPC groups (yeah, one of them was mine) who went a similarly long time without updating their websites. Who had few, if any, traveling consultants.

While we always (since I've been a member) have had traveling consultants, there was a time when our website was very out-of-date, and I'm pretty sure Chi Omega has more resources available than Kappa Beta Gamma. At any rate, KBG is in the process of updating their website; it should go live in a month or so.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I can think of NPC groups (yeah, one of them was mine) who went a similarly long time without updating their websites. Who had few, if any, traveling consultants.

No one came on here and cracked on them or said "wow, isn't that funny."

It wasn't someone from KBG who brought up the question of whether this chapter was disloyal or whether they had conducted things as they should, it was someone who had no dog in the fight (so to speak). KD members defended their new sisters, and a KBG member responded with their side of the story.

And like I said, if I seem leaning a little more to one side than the other, it's because my sorority has had issues with promises made by NPC and not followed through.

They may not have started the topic, but the KBG member sure added flames to the fire by trying to sully the name of their former members. I certainly don't find the need to kick a weaker person when their down, but give me a break. BootyKBG claims that they were doing so much to help their Nu chapter, but it's fairly evident that they didn't do as much as they claim. The "What's New?" page just points out that a lot of things were left undone...maybe supporting their chapter when they needed it was one of those things. And by the way, this situation is nothing like the AES situation so get over it! Is Alpha Sigma Alpha worse off or permanently scared from what happened? Are you stronger today than you were before?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

And by the way, this situation is nothing like the AES situation so get over it! Is Alpha Sigma Alpha worse off or permanently scared from what happened? Are you stronger today than you were before?

Umm, actually I think it probably is a lot like the AES situation, in terms of NPC saying they would do something and didn't.

And yeah - we probably did lose some chapters that we wouldn't have lost if that hadn't happened. I can't speak for the other AES groups, but I'm guessing they did as well.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=23968

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Umm, actually I think it probably is a lot like the AES situation, in terms of NPC saying they would do something and didn't.

And yeah - we probably did lose some chapters that we wouldn't have lost if that hadn't happened. I can't speak for the other AES groups, but I'm guessing they did as well.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=23968

Did you have chapters that decided to disaffiliate from ASA and join another NPC? Unless KBG has some proof that NPC promised that they would help them expand, I don't see what NPC did wrong. If I remember correctly, NPC has no mechanism to enforce anything other than the agreed upon rules of its member organizations. If no one agreed not to accept a group that had disaffiliated from KBG, then they can't cry foul. KBG is not an NPC member and thus is not included under those guidelines.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Did you have chapters that decided to disaffiliate from ASA and join another NPC?

Women who were members of an AES group and an NPC had to surrender their membership in the AES group. Nowadays, it would be like if many members of an AOII chapter were also members of a Tau Beta Sigma chapter and TBS joined Panhel - it would kill the TBS chapter. Like I said, it is not about the EXACT situation that happened, it has to do with something being promised and that promise not being followed through.

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Unless KBG has some proof that NPC promised that they would help them expand, I don't see what NPC did wrong. If I remember correctly, NPC has no mechanism to enforce anything other than the agreed upon rules of its member organizations. If no one agreed not to accept a group that had disaffiliated from KBG, then they can't cry foul. KBG is not an NPC member and thus is not included under those guidelines.

Originally Posted by BootyKBG

Oh, back to the original point I was trying to make, apparently KBG had agreements with NPC in the past in that they would assist us in our growth and moving toward becoming a NPC sorority (probably somewhere between 5 to 8 years ago), thus we were on friendly terms with NPC.