Gays in fraternites (pt. 2) - Page 20

DSTCHAOS · #**286** 05-13-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

I doubt it, actually sounds admirable to me. This country's culture is going into the tank.

Remind me of what this country's culture is.

nate2512 · #**287** 05-13-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AEPi BP

i just want to double check that all other minorities receive the same discrimination at your chapters because otherwise you aren't truly sticking to your values.

I don't see anything in how we choose members as discrimination. To discriminate is deny someone a right, and membership in my fraternity is NOT a RIGHT but rather a PRIVILEGE of which we can give, or take away as we see fit. If you don't like the way we do business, you don't have to, but don't criticize us for exercises our rights.

DSTCHAOS · #**288** 05-13-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CountryClub

I honestly haven't ever read a post by you where you add anything of value to the conversation.

How many posts have you been reading, "new person?"

Now, does this diversion attempt mean that you can't remind me of what this country's culture is?

Pledgetrainer · #**289** 05-13-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Remind me of what this country's culture is.

What we had before it became acceptable for oiled-up gay men in full bondage gear to parade through the streets of downtown Atlanta every year. If heterosexuals did that they would be arrested instantly. Not to compare gays in fraternities to that, but a view on the changes in our culture which the South generally protests and rightly so.

CrackerBarrel · #**290** 05-13-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

How many posts have you been reading, "new person?"

Now, does this diversion attempt mean that you can't remind me of what this country's culture is?

To be fair I fully agree with him. You point out mistakes, make jokes that aren't funny, take things out of context, and ask people to define things when it's obvious what it meant. And then act like you somehow have made this site so much better with your presence that you would be indispensable.

DSTCHAOS · #**291** 05-13-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

What we had before it became acceptable for oiled-up gay men in full bondage gear to parade through the streets of downtown Atlanta every year. If heterosexuals did that they would be arrested instantly. Not to compare gays in fraternities to that, but a view on the changes in our culture which the South generally protests and rightly so.

That doesn't answer my question but it leads to a question:

So you have a problem with oiled up gay men in full bondage gear parading around. Not with gay men who live their lives just as you should live yours, only with a man?

DSTCHAOS · #**292** 05-13-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

To be fair I fully agree with him.

So this means you can't answer my question, either?

How many trolls/sockpuppets/whatever does it take to change a light bulb?

jon1856 · #**293** 05-13-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

What we had before it became acceptable for oiled-up gay men in full bondage gear to parade through the streets of downtown Atlanta every year. If heterosexuals did that they would be arrested instantly. Not to compare gays in fraternities to that, but a view on the changes in our culture which the South generally protests and rightly so.

PT-While I think I understand what you are trying to say, you need to use a better legal analogy.

CrackerBarrel · #**294** 05-13-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

So this means you can't answer my question, either?

How many trolls/sockpuppets/whatever does it take to change a light bulb?

None. That's what pledges are for.

How many posts does it take to do something other than make accusations and ask inane questions?

Pledgetrainer · #**295** 05-13-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That doesn't answer my question but it leads to a question:

So you have a problem with oiled up gay men in full bondage gear parading around. Not with gay men who live their lives just as you should live yours, only with a man?

I don't personally think it's acceptable, but I also believe quite strongly in personal rights and they can do whatever they want as long as it's not around me. If they're in my fraternity, that creates a very, very uncomfortable situation for all involved. And just to state simple fact, it's not going to be allowed in 95% of Southern fraternities. I can only think of one here with an openly gay brother, and they're quite small.

DSTCHAOS · #**296** 05-13-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

How many posts does it take to do something other than make accusations and ask inane questions?

I haven't accused you of being an idiot yet. If you couldn't answer the question about American culture, you shouldn't have inserted yourself.

Pledgetrainer · #**297** 05-13-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

PT-While I think I understand what you are trying to say, you need to use a better legal analogy.

You'd have to elaborate, it was not my intent to use a "legal" analogy whatever that may be. I was just trying to use an obvious and graphic analogy.

jon1856 · #**298** 05-13-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

You'd have to elaborate, it was not my intent to use a "legal" analogy whatever that may be. I was just trying to use an obvious and graphic analogy.

And it was legally incorrect.
You indicated that heterosexuals would be arrested. Given same situation, they would not be.
As for the rest, as I indicated, I believe I understood.

DSTCHAOS · #**299** 05-13-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

I don't personally think it's acceptable, but I also believe quite strongly in personal rights and they can do whatever they want as long as it's not around me. If they're in my fraternity, that creates a very, very uncomfortable situation for all involved. And just to state simple fact, it's not going to be allowed in 95% of Southern fraternities. I can only think of one here with an openly gay brother, and they're quite small.

I understand what you mean about comfort level and not wanting others to intrude on that.

From fear of repeating something from earlier in this interesting thread:

Going beyond the GLO aspect of it all, the average homosexual arguable isn't a fan of oiled up gay men parading around in bondage gear and would agree that it wears down America's moral fabric. Gays and lesbians cover the ideological and political spectrum and many also fight for what they perceive to be salvaging America's "culture" (although I'm still unsure about what our culture really is). Yet and still, homosexual conservative Republicans have a difficult time, even if their lives are no more controversial than anyone else's, aside from loving men.

CrackerBarrel · #**300** 05-13-2008, 04:22 PM

Fine. This country's culture is one of moral decay. We have an overwhelming sense of entitlement (which isn't always a bad thing, only when it's undeserved). Everyone expects special treatment and that there will always be someone there to provide a safety net when they ruin their lives by their own idiotic choices. Specific groups in this country have carried themselves in a way where they go through life looking for things to be offended by and then demand that they be compensated for and apologized to for something that was never intended to be offensive. Because of that people are scared to speak their minds and go about biting their tongues, further worsening our country because no one has the balls to point out the obvious problems.