Minority members of IFC and Panhellenic

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by alum

I don't think the raising the bar statement implied that the bar was raised because a Caucasian happens to be the val. The bar was raised because an obviously bright, focused student was recruited to be part of the student body and that this recruit lived up to his potential. PWIs have recruited the best and brightest African-Americans for awhile. It stands to reason that HBCUs would do the same for their non-focus populations.

I don't think they consciously said it because he's white. Maybe subconsciously or because it sounded like a nice thing to say. But what it implies and what is embedded in it is what concerns me.

The bar wasn't raised by this valedictorian. And he probably learned more from this experience, which he admits along with admitting his Ivy League options, than they learned from having him.

You will rarely find a PWI or other predominantly white institution to praise blacks by saying "the bar was raised." Usually, blacks will be celebrated for excelling and working harder to achieve, what their white counterparts have already achieved, despite the status quo and defying whites' expectations/stereotypes.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by alum

I don't think the raising the bar statement implied that the bar was raised because a Caucasian happens to be the val. The bar was raised because an obviously bright, focused student was recruited to be part of the student body and that this recruit lived up to his potential. PWIs have recruited the best and brightest African-Americans for awhile. It stands to reason that HBCUs would do the same for their non-focus populations.

I think the reporter added her own inflection on that. The rest of America does not cherish or appreciate the grandeur of Morehouse like some of us do. This young man was accepted to Cornell? however he choose Morehouse instead and used all the resources that the House had to offer and took advantage of what they had to offer, too. I don't knock him for that. But The 'House is doing damage control after incidences occurred on campus. That is why this kinna thing is being publicized. Should dude be highlighted, sure! I think it is awesome to see any young person obtaining their dream. However, we in the business all know why Morehouse is doing this.

[Senusret I]

On a related note, my school didn't need to have a Valedictorian as you'd all be working for us some day anyway.

[Little32]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

You will rarely find a PWI or other predominantly white institution to praise blacks by saying "the bar was raised." Usually, blacks will be celebrated for excelling and working harder to achieve, what their white counterparts have already achieved, despite the status quo and defying whites' expectations/stereotypes.

I was just thinking/saying this.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by starang21

but they've overcome so much and have had so much disadvantage in this country. he is one of the "good ones." not like the rest.

Yeah, no one would've expected a white man to come out on top.

Not taking anything away from this bright (and fine) young man and how hard he worked, of course.

Originally Posted by starang21

and i should punch you in the boob for looking at another man.

I think I'm insulted right now but I still wuv u.

*****

Minority members in the IFC and NPC...ready...set...go!!!!

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yeah, no one would've expected a white man to come out on top.

Not taking anything away from this bright (and fine) young man and how hard he worked, of course.



I think I'm insulted right now but I still wuv u.

*****

Minority members in the IFC and NPC...ready...set...go!!!!

:unsure:

i'm jealous.

oh yea, my frat is very diverse. we have 3 filipinos.

Originally Posted by starang21

:unsure:

i'm jealous.

oh yea, my frat is very diverse. we have 3 filipinos.

Do you have TFC there?

Wowowee filmed here on Saturday as part of their US Tour. 20,000 Filipinos showed up.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by OTW

Do you have TFC there?

Wowowee filmed here on Saturday as part of their US Tour. 20,000 Filipinos showed up.

does directtv have it? but naw, plus every damn show is "parental advisory"

hell naw.

Originally Posted by starang21

does directtv have it? but naw, plus every damn show is "parental advisory"

hell naw.

Doesn't look like they have it: http://www.abs-cbni.com/programming/tfc/index.html

It's a variety/game show. They even have their own dancers:





I didn't know "Parental Advisory" is still around...?

[starang21]

Originally Posted by OTW

Doesn't look like they have it: http://www.abs-cbni.com/programming/tfc/index.html

It's a variety/game show. They even have their own dancers:





I didn't know "Parental Advisory" is still around...?

a couple cuties. so that's always positive.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

hijack/

I was waiting for someone to post that. LOL.

That fine specimen of a man is a great news story.

But other than being the first white valedictorian, he's the typical Morehouse man. I didn't like the fact that an article said that he "raised the bar." He didn't because he is the typical super-accomplished Morehouse man and isn't the only valedictorian with a 4.0. And of course he isn't the only white man at Morehouse. His being the first white valedictorian is indicative of inclusion on the part of Morehouse and his peers but not indicative of any triumph of whites amidst systemic adversity. Race, gender, and other minority groups' firsts are celebrated because of triumph amidst structural adversity.

/end hijack

God bless you.

[DSTCHAOS]

Thanks for reminding me that I spelled "amidst" wrong TWICE in that post. Yikes.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Thanks for reminding me that I spelled "amidst" wrong TWICE in that post. Yikes.

I didn't even notice it, but don't you hate when that happens? LOL! I fixed it.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by breathesgelatin

I remember the summer I participated in a summer program that was a joint effort between W&L, Spelman, Morehouse, and Berea college. I already had great opinions of all these institutions, but I remember being really shocked at how preppy some of the Morehouse men were. These guys were more preppy than most W&L guys! In fact they could give the guys in the top fraternity at W&L a run for their money in terms of preppy/expensive/classy clothing, wealth, and general personal comportment and class. There were definitely guys like that at W&L too, but not guys that got accepted into the supposed "top" fraternities. I felt like some of the Morehouse guys in the program were probably the preppiest people I'd ever met. I'm sure that many of them were involved in NPHC orgs.

That was a really educational moment for me - I wasn't particularly preppy myself before I went to college - I went to a big redneck high school and wore jeans and tshirts and had even been sort of goth early on in high school. So when I first met "preppy" guys in college, I did indeed assume it was a "white" thing, but it's definitely not. If you think otherwise it's probably based on your own lack of experience.

At W&L every sorority had African American members, but the "top" fraternities did not. Although - the "top" sororities had fewer African American members. They basically took the richest African American girls.

This highlights the ignorance of many whites when it comes to all things "black." As most African Americans collegians know, Morehouse enrolls many students from top Northern prep schools, day schools and private schools from all over America. One major reason they want to go to Morehouse is to enjoy a high quality majority African American educational and social experience, which many have not had in their lives.

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

This highlights the ignorance of many whites when it comes to all things "black." As most African Americans collegians know, Morehouse enrolls many students from top Northern prep schools, day schools and private schools from all over America. One major reason they want to go to Morehouse is to enjoy a high quality majority African American educational and social experience, which many have not had in their lives.

Let me clarify. I never thought Morehouse wasn't a prestigious school. I just didn't realize how preppy its students were.