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Old 05-09-2008, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid View Post
It's not about stats or averages...it's about that after the first time, incidents like these were not supposed to happen again.....8.2 million or 820,000...

Still something wrong with just 5...only FIVE in the same part of the country who dies in the same manner after facing off with cops!!
This mantra of "ONE IS TOO MANY!" is kind of a strawman, though, isn't it?

The main issue is either:

1 - every person should be treated with dignity by police, including following standard and fair established police practices; or

2 - there is an endemic/systemic problem with the NYPD.

The "ONE IS TOO MANY!" mantra ONLY applies to number one, because in order to prove number two, you cannot ignore the "stats and averages" you've so derisively shooed away.

We don't know, for instance, whether police in Mobile, AL or DC or Vail, CO have the same problems, or whether this is random variation, or the same two dudes causing problems - instead, we should focus on issue number one.

To do otherwise invites those "stats and averages" into the discussion - and, as you've (indirectly) noted, those numbers do not bode well for change to issue number one.
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