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Old 05-07-2008, 07:38 PM
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There was a narc at my high school around 1979. It caused quite a stir once it was found out. I was still in junior high but my brother was there and the students had a walk out to protest.. it was a Very Big Deal. I can see them blending far more easily in college.

I imagine that, if there were only a few members in each chapter, those members may be suspended and the chapters will be watched like hawks for a while, just as they have been in Colorado, especially if those involved weren't in the house. I've been under the impression that the DEA uses these kinds of busts to get to the higher level suppliers so they may get some of these kids to turn and receive lesser charges.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:58 PM
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Besides Theta Chi, the other suspended fraternities are Lambda Chi Alpha, Phi Kappa Psi, Phi Kappa Theta, Sigma Alpha Epsilon and Sigma Alpha Mu.

  • Story Highlights
  • 96 people, including 75 students, arrested in San Diego drug sweep
  • Police say some fraternity members openly dealt drugs, text-messaged customers
  • 2 kilograms of cocaine, Ecstasy, marijuana, meth, guns seized in raids
  • One arrested student was about to get degree in criminal justice
Just got a e-mail about this from ireport.com

IT really is a shame that this is going to be so tangled up in greek life. My thoughts go out to all those involved.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:36 PM
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Six SDSU Fraternities Placed On Suspension as a Result of Drug-Related Arrests

As a result of a San Diego State University Police investigation into drug trafficking/sales, six SDSU fraternities have been placed on interim suspension.

The six fraternities include: Lambda Chi Alpha, Phi Kappa Psi, Phi Kappa Theta, Theta Chi, Sigma Alpha Epsilon and Sigma Alpha Mu.

According to James Kitchen, SDSU's Vice President of Student Affairs, the fraternities have been suspended pending a hearing into evidence gathered. Several fraternity members were among the SDSU students arrested as part of the investigation – which included an extensive undercover operation in tandem with the Drug Enforcement Agency.

To provide updated information on the investigation and arrests, SDSU has established a special Web site for students, parents, faculty/staff and members of the public at http://www.sdsu.edu/information.

OK, why do people keep posting this? This is I think the 5th time it's been posted exactly. Don't post if you haven't read the thread. Of course, not that they'll read this message, either.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:01 PM
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Feds easily infiltrated SDSU drugs culture

Six fraternities suspended, dozens held in alleged drug-dealing ring

SAN DIEGO - Undercover agents who posed as college students to bust more than 100 suspected drug dealers at San Diego State University never had to crack a book to gain acceptance on campus. All it took was cash.
The federal agents went to one or two parties but never actually went to class or lived in the dorms. Instead, they merely arranged meetings with suspected dealers and asked about buying cocaine, Ecstasy, methamphetamine, marijuana and other drugs, authorities said Wednesday.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24510514/
Student group protests SDSU drug bust
SAN DIEGO – In protest of Tuesday's drug bust, members of the Students for Sensible Drug Policy on Wednesday held a mock graduation ceremony at San Diego State University for the 75 students arrested plus the two who died on campus.
They want the university to establish a “Good Samaritan” policy that would protect students from punishment when they call to report drug overdoses involving peers.

The small protest drew a couple dozen spectators.
Randy Hencken, outgoing president of the student organization, said SDSU should not have called in federal drug enforcement agents, or arrested so many students.
“Most of the people arrested were minor drug users,” he said. The drug busts will not prevent drug abuse on campus, said Hencken, who also said his organization supports the legalization of drugs.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...07protest.html

SDSU drug victim’s brother: Most parents ‘unaware’

‘One mistake cost her her life,’ says man whose sister’s death spurred probe

Nate Poliakoff, whose sister’s death of a drug overdose one year ago sparked the undercover investigation at San Diego State University that resulted in the arrests of 96 people Tuesday, said parents underestimate the availability and intensity of drugs on college campuses today.
“I think parents are unaware of the severity of the drug problem,” Poliakoff told TODAY’s Matt Lauer Wednesday from Poway, Calif. “They may be comparing it back to when they were in school, when marijuana may have been the big, prevalent drug. People can experiment with that and it’s not going to cost you your life. It’s not as intense as cocaine, Ecstasy, OxyContin — things of that sort — so I think there’s a substantial difference in the drugs being used.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24500025/

Busted Student to Dad: 'Sorry I Screwed Up So Bad'


Arrested San Diego Student Apologizes to His Family; They Tell Him It's Too Late

"I'm sorry I screwed up so bad" were the shameful words of one of the arrested San Diego State University (SDSU) students to his stunned and saddened family.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/st...4806777&page=1

DA: 3rd Student OD'd During SDSU Drug Probe
SAN DIEGO -- New details are being revealed by prosecutors about the investigation that has now resulted in 101 arrests.
Deputy District Attorney Damon Mosler said Wednesday that a student at an San Diego State University fraternity was shot with a Taser gun and brought to the hospital after a drug overdose in April.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/16192684/detail.html

http://www.fox6.com/mostpopular/stor...8-7520e4d9f5e5
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:07 PM
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Wow!!! I just drove by State 2 weeks ago... And I had this bizarre passing thought that State's history will be changed... I wrote it off...

Well, unfortunately it looks like it had to happen... Same thing happened to my HS in San Diego. The Narc had COPIOUS notes... Dudes who sold to the Narc were dumbasses. That happened in 1984.
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:54 AM
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Wow. You certainly know how to have pride and smear the reputation of your own GLO with comments like this.
I think you misread my comment. I was not referring to my sorority but what one of my sisters was told by a member of another sorority.

That kind of stuff definitely didn't occur in my GLO and I couldn't believe that the girl from the other sorority would so casually mention it like that!
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:05 AM
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Two things that have made me say WHAAAAA?!:

- They used Cox Arena as a place to put all the people arrested... which is where all the graduations are going to take place in the coming weeks. You think they could have found a different place to do it, hahaha.

- The URL for the page with updates on the investigation is simply sdsu.edu/information. Not sdsu.edu/police/druginformation, nope, just INFORMATION.

Also on that page:

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Is it safe for my son or daughter to be part of a fraternity or sorority?

Students should ask appropriate questions and join a responsible organization that reflects his/her own interests and values.
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Lastly I am watching the local news and they said one of the students sold Ecstasy to an undercover agent right inside one of the school-operated restaurants at the dorms. Smart one!
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:41 AM
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So, I scanned eight pages of "mug shots" and noticed that one of the young men who got arrested looked familiar. I realized this evening that I have, in fact, worked with him before.

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Old 05-08-2008, 11:49 AM
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My question is that if some of the 6 fraternities that are on temporary probation are not proved guilty, how are they to return to regular operations without scrutiny?

Also, I question the point in which it turns to an individual issue, not chapter-wide.

I noticed, through several posts, that approx. 75 were arrested. IF its only a one or two per people from a certain chapter, how would the school handle the chapter?

At any rate, I'm sure the drug problem there is much bigger that what it appears even after the bust.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:58 AM
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My question is that if some of the 6 fraternities that are on temporary probation are not proved guilty, how are they to return to regular operations without scrutiny?

Also, I question the point in which it turns to an individual issue, not chapter-wide.

I noticed, through several posts, that approx. 75 were arrested. IF its only a one or two per people from a certain chapter, how would the school handle the chapter?

At any rate, I'm sure the drug problem there is much bigger that what it appears even after the bust.
From the msn story above:
"At least 75 people arrested during the five-month sting were San Diego State students, and 13 of them were from seven fraternities. All together, there were 128 arrests, 61 on Tuesday. Theta Chi had the highest number of students arrested, with five."
Theta Chi is the chapter that the offices "bang on" during the press conferences IIRC.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:22 PM
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Not being bias lol, but below is a statement from SAE Nationals:


Statement on Chapter at San Diego State

EVANSTON, IL – Sigma Alpha Epsilon’s national headquarters has been monitoring the situation that took place on San Diego State University’s campus, as the organization was one of six fraternities suspended by university officials.

As a result of its investigation, the Drug Enforcement Agency provided names of three students to the university who were allegedly members of Sigma Alpha Epsilon. However, two of the men are not members. They are former pledges who broke their affiliation with SAE previous to this incident.

The third student, an active member, was interviewed by police for an unrelated matter prior to this incident. They released him without charges. In fact, no charges have been filed against any of Sigma Alpha Epsilon’s members. Law-enforcement officials did not search the Sigma Alpha Epsilon house.

A group of alumni advisers are working with chapter members to ensure operations remain in compliance with national guidelines. And both undergraduate and alumni members will continue to cooperate with both university and law-enforcement officials.


At any rate, bad publicity never leaves you.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:38 PM
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Like this kind of thing isn't going on across just about every campus in the nation. Greeks, Sports Teams, Student Clubs, etc.

Unless you are completely obvious to your surroundings, we all know who is doing/selling drugs.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:45 PM
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Not being bias lol, but below is a statement from SAE Nationals:


Statement on Chapter at San Diego State

EVANSTON, IL – Sigma Alpha Epsilon’s national headquarters has been monitoring the situation that took place on San Diego State University’s campus, as the organization was one of six fraternities suspended by university officials.

As a result of its investigation, the Drug Enforcement Agency provided names of three students to the university who were allegedly members of Sigma Alpha Epsilon. However, two of the men are not members. They are former pledges who broke their affiliation with SAE previous to this incident.

The third student, an active member, was interviewed by police for an unrelated matter prior to this incident. They released him without charges. In fact, no charges have been filed against any of Sigma Alpha Epsilon’s members. Law-enforcement officials did not search the Sigma Alpha Epsilon house.

A group of alumni advisers are working with chapter members to ensure operations remain in compliance with national guidelines. And both undergraduate and alumni members will continue to cooperate with both university and law-enforcement officials.


At any rate, bad publicity never leaves you.
Thanks for the up-date Brother. I had been looking forward to a statement as well.

This seems to show a rather wide, shot-gun/net that both LO and school threw out.
Not necessarily a bad thing. However, just as you pointed out, the publicity will linger and I do not have a good feeling about any of this showing up on the front pages.
Hope to run into you on SAE's GC sometime. PDA???

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Old 05-08-2008, 02:10 PM
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The school is claiming only 33 of the the original 96 are students.

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That investigation, led by the SDSU Police, culminated in yesterday's arrests. To date, 33 students have been arrested; each of those students has been suspended. We believe we have arrested the majority of those involved.
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