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Old 05-07-2008, 01:04 PM
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^^^^You missed one:
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I never said anything about the current situation in NYC.
Track record.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:16 PM
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how much training do they need to not walk out in front of speeding cars?
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:19 PM
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how much training do they need to not walk out in front of speeding cars?
True-good question
Another one would be: how much training for a driver does it take not to hit someone. As story says, others (drivers) saw the officer in the road.

First thing I heard this morning was a two car accident right in front of my house.
A Jeep(RTM) ended up just about on top of a fire plug.
So there were police officers, firemen, EMTs, water dept men, and tow truck operators all over the
place. During rush hour. Not one was hit.

Perhaps that was on my mind more than just about anything else.

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Old 05-07-2008, 01:54 PM
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I don't really like making double-standard arguments, but yeah I agree somewhat. I don't hear the same outcry for police struck down, at least not from the same people. There are differences, like the power police are given because of their position. But when you run over someone or pick up a firearm, you're taking on additional responsibilities too.
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Old 05-07-2008, 02:03 PM
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how much training do they need to not walk out in front of speeding cars?


That is an assinine statement!

I don't know how many times I was almost struck by dumb asses with lights going but they did not see them or a waving 5 cell flash light waving to warn drivers.

People do not pull to the left next lane, they just keep driving like in a fog.

A friend of mine on the KC Ks. Department was killed and it is hard to take.

All one ahs to do ios see Police Cars video cams to see Officers struck by cars and either killed are paralyzed.

The same thing goes for road crews or anyone else working on our highways!
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:02 PM
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That is an assinine statement!

I don't know how many times I was almost struck by dumb asses with lights going but they did not see them or a waving 5 cell flash light waving to warn drivers.

People do not pull to the left next lane, they just keep driving like in a fog.

A friend of mine on the KC Ks. Department was killed and it is hard to take.

All one ahs to do ios see Police Cars video cams to see Officers struck by cars and either killed are paralyzed.

The same thing goes for road crews or anyone else working on our highways!
still not the fault of the driver if he randomly walks out into traffic
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:08 PM
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still not the fault of the driver if he randomly walks out into traffic
"Howard County Police Chief William McMahon says they are disappointed by the decision. In a news conference Thursday afternoon he told reporters, “We are confident she was going 71 miles per hour in a 55 mile per hour zone. As she approached Scott she did see him and move and took some evasive action perhaps to not strike him. But I will tell you this, other drivers who were on the roadway that day, including those that were behind her, saw the officer and was able to react."
http://wjz.com/local/scott.wheeler.p...ectflash=false
http://www.co.ho.md.us/Police/pd_wheeler.htm

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Old 05-07-2008, 03:21 PM
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"Howard County Police Chief William McMahon says they are disappointed by the decision. In a news conference Thursday afternoon he told reporters, “We are confident she was going 71 miles per hour in a 55 mile per hour zone. As she approached Scott she did see him and move and took some evasive action perhaps to not strike him. But I will tell you this, other drivers who were on the roadway that day, including those that were behind her, saw the officer and was able to react."
http://wjz.com/local/scott.wheeler.p...ectflash=false
http://www.co.ho.md.us/Police/pd_wheeler.htm
Oh, weird - the Police Chief disagrees? Fancy that. Seriously? That's the best we can do? "Other people didn't kill the guy, so she must have been out of control!" Come on - that's absolute nonsense, and just a severe mangling of any sort of logical thinking.

Speeding is an easy way to generate a civil case based on negligence, so it's likely she'll wind up in a court with a lower burden - so never fear. Still, this is absolutely, 100% NOT a civil rights issue like the comparisons you're making.
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:25 PM
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Oh, weird - the Police Chief disagrees? Fancy that. Seriously? That's the best we can do? "Other people didn't kill the guy, so she must have been out of control!" Come on - that's absolute nonsense, and just a severe mangling of any sort of logical thinking.

Speeding is an easy way to generate a civil case based on negligence, so it's likely she'll wind up in a court with a lower burden - so never fear. Still, this is absolutely, 100% NOT a civil rights issue like the comparisons you're making.
I never made, in this thread, any comparisons.
I did mention track records/histories.

20 miles per hour over limit.....
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