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04-25-2008, 11:13 PM
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Not guaranteed. But we would be addressing one of the many correlates of crime, plus improving other aspects of this "powerful industrialized, civilized, economically developed, capitalist nation."
We might not have to wait for a prompting event, however, crime rates do respond to economic shifts, imprisonment rates, demographic shifts, and so forth.
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No, not guaranteed. I was simplifying the hypothetical to show my line of reasoning.
Sure, lets work to end poverty. So long as we know we're engaging in temporary appeasement when it comes to crime.
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04-25-2008, 11:31 PM
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So long as we know we're engaging in temporary appeasement when it comes to crime.
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Addressing the correlates of crime isn't a temporary adjustment.
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04-25-2008, 11:48 PM
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Addressing the correlates of crime isn't a temporary adjustment.
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No you're right, it will be a incessant process of recognizing or discovering new correlates, addressing those, only to see crime persist despite our efforts. This is very likely a fight worth fighting (depending on what must be sacrificed), but it will never yield a solution to America's crime problem.
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04-25-2008, 11:55 PM
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No you're right, it will be a incessant process of recognizing or discovering new correlates, addressing those, only to see crime persist despite our efforts. This is very likely a fight worth fighting (depending on what must be sacrificed), but it will never yield a solution to America's crime problem.
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There will always be crime. Period.
What we're striving for as an industrialized nation is to not have such a high crime rate (as compared to other industrialized nations). And we should focus on crimes beyond those committed by the lower socioeconomic status.
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04-26-2008, 12:29 AM
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There will always be crime. Period.
What we're striving for as an industrialized nation is to not have such a high crime rate (as compared to other industrialized nations). And we should focus on crimes beyond those committed by the lower socioeconomic status.
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You're exactly right we should. And addressing the correlates of that category of crime will be an even more frustrating task, I think.
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