Gays in fraternites (pt. 2)

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

This is interesting. I've always wondered about the types of issues that arise from having 2 sisters dating. Like what happens if two dating sisters break up? Or what about house-related issues? Like, I know in our orgs we have rules against males in sisters' bedrooms, but what happens in this case?

There's a LOT of dating and hooking up, both hetero and homo, that goes on in many Alpha Phi Omega chapters that I know of. Usually when someone breaks up, one person of the past couple almost always drops out of the fraternity. The person who has the most popularity within the chapter usually does a lot of shit talking about the ex and try to get all of the members to turn on them. It can get really nasty. I'm guessing the same thing would happen to members who date and break up in single-sex social fraternities and sororities.

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

This is interesting. I've always wondered about the types of issues that arise from having 2 sisters dating. Like what happens if two dating sisters break up? Or what about house-related issues? Like, I know in our orgs we have rules against males in sisters' bedrooms, but what happens in this case?

It's an easy rule to live with b/c our sorority doesn't have a house

[62231]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

LOL, SEC. Some of your posts make me but I also tend to be a little tickled by your honesty and obvious self-awareness.

It does get me into trouble every now and then, but unfortunately for many, not enough to shut me up.

[rufio]

after making my way through 6 pages of this thread, i've concluded that nothing of substance has been posted since page 2. its a shame i cant have the last 10 minutes of my life back.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Buddy, homosexuality is a sin according to the bible.

To be precise, homosexual behavior is a sin according to the Bible. There is a difference.

Originally Posted by rufio

after making my way through 6 pages of this thread, i've concluded that nothing of substance has been posted since page 2. its a shame i cant have the last 10 minutes of my life back.

Thanks for the warning.

[alum]

The Bible interpreted through Lego shttp://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/index.html

Yes, they illustrate the punishment for inappropriate food consumption and inappropriate bedroom behavior through plastic bricks.

[tanzera]

I go to a school with a great Greek community and there are gay guys in all of the biggest fraternities and it is never a big deal. They are not flamboyant feminine type but if they were a frat wouldnt be their thing anyway. I totally agree with whoever said just because they are gay doesnt mean they dont have the same interests as you or same beliefs. A lot of gays come from the same religious backgrounds that you do even though they condemn them, it doesnt mean their not religious. Why even be in college in your not open to meeting new people from all types of lifestyles and learning from them. You dont have to be best friends with everyone but why spend any of your time on this Earth making someone else's life miserable? I dont get that.

[perdido88]

I know of certain fraternities, which convey strong christian principles. The members consider homosexuality as something immoral, and there is an immorality clause in their rulebook, which states that they can expel a member if they conduct in an immoral manner. One of the members stated that if they know of a member, who is engaging in homosexual acts, then they can begin proceedings to expel such member. Never mind that many members are straight but engaging in adulterous affairs, which would constitute an immoral act. So it seems there are double standards.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by perdido88

I know of certain fraternities, which convey strong christian principles. The members consider homosexuality as something immoral, and there is an immorality clause in their rulebook, which states that they can expel a member if they conduct in an immoral manner. One of the members stated that if they know of a member, who is engaging in homosexual acts, then they can begin proceedings to expel such member. Never mind that many members are straight but engaging in adulterous affairs, which would constitute an immoral act. So it seems there are double standards.

Or engaging in sex before marriage. Are these NIC fraternities like Sigma Chi and ATO, with a strong Christian background (but do not require their members be Christian) or other fraternities that are more Christian focused to the point where no non-Christians would join?

[shinerbock]

There certainly is a double standard in some fraternities. But condoning some immorality doesn't mean it is a good idea to condone or bring in other immoral activity.

They're simply drawing the line somewhere. A lot of us will be friends with people who occasionally lie, or are cruel, etc. But most of us may not be friends with a thief or a rapist, etc. Is it hypocritical? Maybe. Certainly a double standard for a lot of Christians.

The answer is addressing your own problems, not in condoning other immoral behavior.

If fraternities were protesting and going on tv to talk about how all gay people are going to hell, then I'd agree with you. But I don't really see any public condemnation.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

There certainly is a double standard in some fraternities. But condoning some immorality doesn't mean it is a good idea to condone or bring in other immoral activity.

They're simply drawing the line somewhere. A lot of us will be friends with people who occasionally lie, or are cruel, etc. But most of us may not be friends with a thief or a rapist, etc. Is it hypocritical? Maybe. Certainly a double standard for a lot of Christians.

The answer is addressing your own problems, not in condoning other immoral behavior.

If fraternities were protesting and going on tv to talk about how all gay people are going to hell, then I'd agree with you. But I don't really see any public condemnation.

I had to just about stop reading this at the very first line.
Double standards at some Fraternities???
Off the top of my head I can recall: Rape, drug use, destruction of public property,theft, riot, under age drinking, and hazing. And the line is drawn at a person being gay?
Perhaps I need to read the whole posting when I have the time too.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by jon1856

I had to just about stop reading this at the very first line.
Double standards at some Fraternities???
Off the top of my head I can recall: Rape, drug use, destruction of public property,theft, riot, under age drinking, and hazing. And the line is drawn at a person being gay?
Perhaps I need to read the whole posting when I have the time too.

people are hypocrites.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by jon1856

I had to just about stop reading this at the very first line.
Double standards at some Fraternities???
Off the top of my head I can recall: Rape, drug use, destruction of public property,theft, riot, under age drinking, and hazing.

I'll give you underage drinking, but surely you are not suggesting that rape, drug use, destruction of public property, theft and riot (or hazing, for that matter) happen in every chapter? (I have feeling that by "some fraternities," shinerbock meant "some chapters of some fraternities.") Because unless you are, the "some fraternities" fits.

[DSTCHAOS]

Regardless of where the line is drawn at the individual level, it is wonderful that the law recognizes the difference between illegal behaviors (underage drinking, rape, etc.) and perceived deviant and immoral behaviors (homosexuality, sex before marriage, promiscuity, etc.).

That's all.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Regardless of where the line is drawn at the individual level, it is wonderful that the law recognizes the difference between illegal behaviors (underage drinking, rape, etc.) and perceived deviant and immoral behaviors (homosexuality, sex before marriage, promiscuity, etc.).

That's all.

But some of what you just posted cross over each other.