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04-27-2008, 06:03 PM
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Jon...we are NOT talking about Cali, Virginia or any other place where this has happened...that is not because this isn't a problem else BUT.....
We are talking about NEW YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT which has killed 5 UNARMED people in the last 10 years (twice using excessive force) with only ONE cop being convicted.
Obviously this is a problem IN NEW YORK CITY...not anywhere else....
Hell, I can tell you about the police shooting a man down at Lexington market in Baltimore City which I witnessed first hand..
http://www.workers.org/ww/1997/baltimore0904.html
But this is NOT where we are talking about!
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04-27-2008, 06:48 PM
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An aside - one of the links is to an article that says Nicole married Sean Bell posthumously. Is that possible? I don't want to sound unfeeling, and to have your fiancé die on your wedding day - and in such a violent fashion - would be awful, but a posthumous marriage???
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04-27-2008, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Jon...we are NOT talking about Cali, Virginia or any other place where this has happened...that is not because this isn't a problem else BUT.....
We are talking about NEW YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT which has killed 5 UNARMED people in the last 10 years (twice using excessive force) with only ONE cop being convicted.
Obviously this is a problem IN NEW YORK CITY...not anywhere else....
Hell, I can tell you about the police shooting a man down at Lexington market in Baltimore City which I witnessed first hand..
http://www.workers.org/ww/1997/baltimore0904.html
But this is NOT where we are talking about! |
Reread a posting above this.
It was a rather general comment.
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04-29-2008, 11:25 AM
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*completely offtrack hijack*
Chaos, Amy Grant's first Christmas album was the only one in my car CD player for years, I listened to it all the time at the holidays and I still put it in rotation. When I clicked on your 3rd link and heard the familiar beginning of the song (which starts the album), it got me so happy, but then I got SO DISTRACTED by what she's wearing. LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Oh, the 80s.
/totally random hijack and I hope I didn't disrespect the thread*
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04-29-2008, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nittanyalum
*completely offtrack hijack*
Chaos, Amy Grant's first Christmas album was the only one in my car CD player for years, I listened to it all the time at the holidays and I still put it in rotation. When I clicked on your 3rd link and heard the familiar beginning of the song (which starts the album), it got me so happy, but then I got SO DISTRACTED by what she's wearing. LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Oh, the 80s.
/totally random hijack and I hope I didn't disrespect the thread*
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An Amy Grant hijack is worth it. 
Her music has always made me smile. And sometimes cry. I love music. 
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05-07-2008, 04:54 PM
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jon, you just want this not to work out for some reason.
LOL.
Go on somewhere.
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05-07-2008, 04:58 PM
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jon, you just want this not to work out for some reason.
LOL.
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Not sure just what your definition of "work out" is. 
If it is a peaceful demonstration, yes I do.
If it is that this is somehow going to change what happened in the past and bring people back to life-I know it will not. 
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05-07-2008, 05:01 PM
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Not sure just what your definition of "work out" is.
If it is a peaceful demonstration, yes I do. |
I can't tell.
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Originally Posted by jon1856
If it is that this is somehow going to change what happened in the past and bring people back to life-I know it will not. |
Anyone with a grain of brain knows that it will not change the past and bring people back to life. 
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05-08-2008, 09:48 AM
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05-08-2008, 04:39 PM
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11 Years of Police Gunfire, in Painstaking Detail
Interesting read from The New York Times.
One should read all of it IMVHO.
11 Years of Police Gunfire, in Painstaking Detail
New York City police officers fire their weapons far less often than they did a decade ago, a statistic that has dropped along with the crime rate. But when they do fire, even at an armed suspect, there is often no one returning fire at the officers. Officers hit their targets roughly 34 percent of the time. ......
......The police fatally shot 13 people in 2006, compared with 30 people a decade before.
¶In 77 percent of all shootings since 1998 when civilians were the targets, police officers were not fired upon, although in some of those cases, the suspects were acting violently: displaying a gun or pointing it at officers, firing at civilians, stabbing or beating someone or hitting officers with autos, the police said. No one fired at officers in two notable cases — the 1999 shooting of Amadou Diallo and the 2006 shooting of Sean Bell.
¶In such shootings, the total number of shots fired in each situation edged up to 4.7 in 2006. However, the figure is skewed by the 50 shots fired in the Bell case. Excluding that case, the average would be 3.6 shots.
¶The average number of bullets fired by each officer involved in a shooting remained about the same over those 11 years even with a switch to guns that hold more bullets — as did officers’ accuracy, roughly 34 percent. This figure is known in police parlance as the “hit ratio.”
“The data shows that the New York City Police Department is the most restrained in the country,” said Paul J. Browne, the department’s chief spokesman. “What these reports don’t show are the thousands of incidents where police were confronted with armed criminals, and they did not return fire.”.........
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/ny...rssnyt&emc=rss
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05-07-2008, 05:00 PM
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For the love of God it's not CIVIL OBEDIENCE.
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05-08-2008, 05:55 PM
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Is 5 people over 10 years really a lot? I'm being serious here. There's no telling how many situations the Police deal with each year involving possible use of deadly force.
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05-08-2008, 06:17 PM
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Is 5 people over 10 years really a lot? I'm being serious here. There's no telling how many situations the Police deal with each year involving possible use of deadly force.
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Mack...in NYC...or anyplace for 5 people to die in the same manner...unarmed and a hail of bullets....yeah...I think something is wrong with that.
Especially if going by what jon just posted and verified...yup.
Something isn't right.
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05-08-2008, 06:40 PM
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Something isn't right.
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I do agree with you on this point; something is not right.
Anyone notice when this became more about Rev Al than Sean Bell?
Everyone I deal with (family, friends, co-workers,business associates et al) all say that this is now all about Rev Al. Perhaps has been so for awhile now.
Think about the comments reported the other day.
"We are doing this to get the attention of the Federal officials"
Now since when does Rev Al not have anyone's phone number to arrange a meeting?
Since when does he not have to ability to have a press conference at the drop of a quarter?
This is all about his face time.
He gets his face in the cameras.
So the Civil Right section of the Dept of Justice has to say, in public that they are meeting.
And Rev Al gets to make sure that he gets face time with all the politicians.
And remember, we have an election coming up. Who ever the two are, they will be coming to his court for face time.
And Sean and his family and friends are just now tools to be used.
I find that a shame.
And remember, even if the DoJ does start a file, nothing is going to happen for awhile.
This thread will have to be dug up.
Just MVHO.
P.S.: Rev Al said that he will shut down the NYC again in 7-10 days.
Next Wednesday looks good.
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