Hamas endorses Obama

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Which is where I, and those who think it's a bigger deal than you, disagree.

Trying to sabatoge him might be believable. But it's not for me, because I already find him to be the most liberal candidate- way more left than Hillary. This whole ordeal just confirms what I already knew.

As long as you realize you're reading into it only what you put there. Their endorsement might mean that they think he has the best chance of working out a deal where Israel and Palestine live together without shooting each other or blowing up discos. It might mean that they think he'll be the weakest president and the easiest to manipulate. It might mean they'd like to see a brown guy in office. It might mean they discovered he forgets to put the butter away sometimes and they can really relate to that.

It goes on and on. Without them stating why they endorse, and you being able to trust that statement, you're only taking out what you put in.

[honeychile]

Yeah, bu the important thing is: has Jimmy Carter given Obama his support?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Yeah, bu the important thing is: has Jimmy Carter given Obama his support?

He's not endorsing til the convention.

I know I know, you were making a funny.

[Educatingblue]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

It might mean they'd like to see a brown guy in office.

I was thinking more along the lines of this. I wonder if a minority president will change the way the international community views the United States.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Educatingblue

I was thinking more along the lines of this. I wonder if a minority president will change the way the international community views the United States.

I think his proposed actions will have a much greater influence on how we are viewed by the international community rather than his skin color.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Educatingblue

I was thinking more along the lines of this. I wonder if a minority president will change the way the international community views the United States.

I've read stories from reporters in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. that include the comment that Obama does give the people there hope that America practices what it preaches. Average everyday people, btw, who may or may not be thrilled with the US but aren't on a jihad against it.

And I think that's the difference between the "international community" that macallan speaks of and Mohammed, John, Ivan, etc. on the street.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Educatingblue

I was thinking more along the lines of this. I wonder if a minority president will change the way the international community views the United States.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I've read stories from reporters in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. that include the comment that Obama does give the people there hope that America practices what it preaches.

From what i've been told, a lot of the "admiration" (for a lack of a better term) for Obama is mainly because his father was/is Muslim.

But, I think any president that doesn't have a George W. Bush mentality might be able to change the way the int'l community views us.

[Educatingblue]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I've read stories from reporters in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. that include the comment that Obama does give the people there hope that America practices what it preaches. Average everyday people, btw, who may or may not be thrilled with the US but aren't on a jihad against it.

Exactly! Everytime I watch international news reports, I am astounded by the Anti-American sentiment on various political issues. EVERY American obviously does not share the same views nor feel superior to the rest of the world.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by epchick

From what i've been told, a lot of the "admiration" (for a lack of a better term) for Obama is mainly because his father was/is Muslim.

But, I think any president that doesn't have a George W. Bush mentality might be able to change the way the int'l community views us.

I don't think it's simply because his father's Muslim, but what it means that America could elect a President with that heritage. There is certainly a tendancy to support the person "like" you, especially when you don't have as much of a stake in the winner.

Originally Posted by Educatingblue

Exactly! Everytime I watch international news reports, I am astounded by the Anti-American sentiment on various political issues. EVERY American obviously does not share the same views nor feel superior to the rest of the world.

*nod*
There are some people who should get the lesson from that and apply it to their own perceptions. Like those who think that all Muslims think the same way *cough hint cough*

And as for the media, as much as I like the BBC for example, they have their own bias too.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I don't think it's simply because his father's Muslim, but what it means that America could elect a President with that heritage. There is certainly a tendancy to support the person "like" you, especially when you don't have as much of a stake in the winner.

That's true as well. My professor made that comment when I asked her opinion about Hamas endorsing Obama (my professor's Palestinian).

But your last sentence is totally true--its just like the president of BET said (i'm pretty sure there is already a thread about that so i wont go into it).

[shinerbock]

While I don't think it is a bad thing to be admired because we're open to electing people from varying backgrounds...I'm not sure I care what those countries think.

Sure, I want the United States to be respected, but do I want the Netherlands to respect us because we're being destroyed by political correctness just like they are? Not really. Simply because something garners respect doesn't mean it is good for America.