Obama scoring points with rural voters...

[33girl]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

I don't know about you, but I live on planet Earth, and that is not the way things are.

Like I said before - unless you know what it's like to live in a Rust Belt town (or to have to live with your home being called the Rust Belt, for that matter) you have no idea what he was talking about. I do, and I can say that everything he said was dead on. If John McCain had said it, everyone would be like "yes, he's so right, I'm sick of being bitter, I want to believe in government again." But if a black guy who went to Harvard says it, he's an elitist insulting everyone. "Keep in your place, boy."

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Like I said before - unless you know what it's like to live in a Rust Belt town (or to have to live with your home being called the Rust Belt, for that matter) you have no idea what he was talking about. I do, and I can say that everything he said was dead on. If John McCain had said it, everyone would be like "yes, he's so right, I'm sick of being bitter, I want to believe in government again." But if a black guy who went to Harvard says it, he's an elitist insulting everyone. "Keep in your place, boy."

again...let's forget the fact that all of the other candidates went to schools too....like....uhhh...Welleslley (sp) Yale and the Naval Academy....so do they all qualify as elitists?

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Like I said before - unless you know what it's like to live in a Rust Belt town (or to have to live with your home being called the Rust Belt, for that matter) you have no idea what he was talking about. I do, and I can say that everything he said was dead on. If John McCain had said it, everyone would be like "yes, he's so right, I'm sick of being bitter, I want to believe in government again." But if a black guy who went to Harvard says it, he's an elitist insulting everyone. "Keep in your place, boy."

Oh come on, that is absolutely ridiculous. It wouldn't have mattered if the person that said those comments was whiter than white can be, they had an elitist slant to them. The man that said them may not be elitist...but the comments were. If they were perfectly "normal" and "true" and "dead on" then nobody should have a problem with it. Am I not correct?

........and enough with the freaking "you just don't like what he said because he's educated and black". It's time for that idiotic trend to cease.

[33girl]

Most of the people in the towns that he said it about DON'T have a problem with it. The ones who do are probably aghast that a black man has gotten this far in the first place and weren't going to vote for him (or God forbid, a woman) anyway.

Hillary did an ad with "normal people" "from PA" saying how offended they were...none of the people look in the least bit poor, and one of the guys is from NJ and can't even vote in the PA primary.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Oh come on, that is absolutely ridiculous. It wouldn't have mattered if the person that said those comments was whiter than white can be, they had an elitist slant to them. The man that said them may not be elitist...but the comments were. If they were perfectly "normal" and "true" and "dead on" then nobody should have a problem with it. Am I not correct?

........and enough with the freaking "you just don't like what he said because he's educated and black". It's time for that idiotic trend to cease.

They were indeed academically phrased. He sounded like a sociologist, not a politician.

However I think my, and other's, clarifications were not in a "you should so totally understand this stupid morons" perspective, but a "here's what he said he meant, and what the context of the statement was."

(Last part of that more addressed at whoever objected two pages ago)

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

They were indeed academically phrased. He sounded like a sociologist, not a politician.

However I think my, and other's, clarifications were not in a "you should so totally understand this stupid morons" perspective, but a "here's what he said he meant, and what the context of the statement was."

(Last part of that more addressed at whoever objected two pages ago)

For sure. I understand what he was trying to say...I just think he could have chosen a better way to express it.

33, I believe you that people in these small communities don't have a problem with it. I could say a lot of true things about people that they would probably have to agree with......doesn't mean I won't sound like an ass saying them.

[DaemonSeid]

Soemtimes, no matter how you word something...the truth is just that, whether yo choose to believe it or not...and sometimes it really stings more when it comes from someone who is an outsiderand not having been actually thru whatever it is that you have been thru...I think that is what a lot of people are upset about.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Soemtimes, no matter how you word something...the truth is just that, whether yo choose to believe it or not...and sometimes it really stings more when it comes from someone who is an outsiderand not having been actually thru whatever it is that you have been thru...I think that is what a lot of people are upset about.

Good post.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by macallan25

33, I believe you that people in these small communities don't have a problem with it. I could say a lot of true things about people that they would probably have to agree with......doesn't mean I won't sound like an ass saying them.

Well, my opinion is that they're so tired of hearing the same old BS that someone who says something that is true (even if it isn't shiny and happy) is a welcome change.

Then again, these are some of the same people who voted for John Murtha 2342634642365432 times, so I might be full of shit after all.

ETA: This guy says it better than I can - the entry from the 13th of April.