Hazing: Is it always bad?

[Kevin]

My organization and I'm sure lots of yours specifically define hazing. I think many organizations take it to an extreme that in the long run can be unhealthy.

We should expect our members to fulfill certain requirements before being initiated. If not, how is it special to be Greek vs in Math Club or Young Republicans?

It seems with some organizations anti-hazing policies that you can't ask your new members to do ANYTHING -- you can't require them to show up for meetings, can't ask them to complete tasks or whatever.

This is not hazing -- and it's not what gives the Greek Community a bad name. Line ups, paddling, SOME scavenger hunts, anything to that effect is something that needs to be questioned. But requiring new members to know the Greek Alphabet? Requiring them to meet your older members? Requiring them to be familiar with your history and with the history of the Greek movement in general?

I don't think that's hazing in the least and as far as I know, neither does my HQ.

It's a fine line you have to walk between hazing and having a successful and useful curriculum for your new members -- it's a line I think they should give us a bit more leeway on.