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Old 04-12-2008, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille View Post
And how does that make Farrakhan Obama's spiritual advisor as you claimed?


Such as? The only connections I can find between Obama and the NOI is that several of his staffers are members (oh noes, I bet several are Catholic too!), and that his Church's magazine honored Farrakhan.

Obama's Silence on Imus Alarms Some Blacks

Because people are either all good or all bad. Obama was actually rather specific in saying that he hadn't heard the specific sermons that people were asking him about, but that he HAD heard controversial things. Wright is a person who, spiritually and socially, means a lot to him. Politicians throw those people under the bus for votes, people do not.

Again, you're making shit up with Farrakhan. He wasn't saying that omg she was racist she was so typical of white people. He was saying she was a normal human being, she was white, and she was a woman. Word choice may not have been the best, but in and of itself it is not racist. Neither is your second example. It's about the intent behind the words.


Bully for you?
I can't be ____ some of my best friends are ____. I get it.

*snipped even less relevant things*


Nah, they're fine where they are. Apparently Oprah and Obama only care about black people. That's what you said. THAT is where my assumptions about you come into play. That and the whole post wasn't really about you, it was about everyone like you who gets the tiniest bit of information and instead of looking for more, explodes into an unrealistic set of claims.

Oh and you put "GLO" slur on the same level as racism, sexism, etc?
Regarding the politics, we could go on and on, getting articles to support our points of view. You and I can illustrate the other’s “fallacies” in this Debate 101 endlessly. I want to spend my time doing something else, instead of engaging in a lose/lose argument. You have your facts and opinions and I have my facts and opinions, which support our point of view.

Regarding Obama, "Let's agree to disagree". We each get to vote.

Since this is Greekchat, I mentioned GLO’s because they also are the targets of attacks. There is bigotry and hatred against GLO members as a group. I have experienced the sexism against sorority women and witnessed the racism (racial slurs were used) in the beatings of White fraternity men. Yes, I will continue to speak out, even if GLO’s aren’t considered “important” to others.

I will also say that I don't appreciate your "bully for you" sarcasm and lack of compassion when innocent people are attacked, but we are who we are.

That Korean man has permanent physical injuries, he is lucky to be alive. None of us left that store without some “scar”. Hopefully, the memory of the experience for everyone, will fade over time.

Have you ever heard the different sounds that come when a bat hits the head, chest, and face, while listening to the screams and pleas of the victim?

Have you ever seen a person's face instantly disfigured, with blood and teeth flying in the air?

Have you ever felt, really felt! the hatred, and violence of an attacker coming at you with a bloody baseball bat?

Have you ever felt the absolute terror of looking into the eyes of someone who wants to kill you?

I hope you never do. Good Night and Good Luck.
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