Nine-year-olds in U.S. plotted to tie up and hurt teacher

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

In my experience most people hired to deal with us never had a clue.

You're friend probably could've avoided that situation. And i'm sure that the punishment for the student who defended him/herself against your friend was completely uncalled for.

Are you kidding or trying to be deliberately offensive? You read a story about a teacher getting her leg broken and pushed down stairs, and you assume that the student was defending himself or herself? Did I miss something?

I think that "the teacher deserved it comments here" were probably in jest, right? How else are kids going to learn the capital of Vermont?

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Are you kidding or trying to be deliberately offensive? You read a story about a teacher getting her leg broken and pushed down stairs, and you assume that the student was defending himself or herself? Did I miss something?

I think that "the teacher deserved it comments here" were probably in jest, right? How else are kids going to learn the capital of Vermont?

just trying to add some balance. Special Ed teachers, while some are angels, some are devils. I know. I went through the system. But untill i see indisputable proof that the kid did that for no reason, I will assume it was the teacher at fault, as everyone else seems ready to blame the student.

No i'm not Kidding. I'm not being deliberately offensive, but if you're offended I couldn't care less.

There are more bad people than good that teach special ed. I wouldn't be surprised at all if those teacher's deserved it.

[RaggedyAnn]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

just trying to add some balance. Special Ed teachers, while some are angels, some are devils. I know. I went through the system. But untill i see indisputable proof that the kid did that for no reason, I will assume it was the teacher at fault, as everyone else seems ready to blame the student.

No i'm not Kidding. I'm not being deliberately offensive, but if you're offended I couldn't care less.

There are more bad people than good that teach special ed. I wouldn't be surprised at all if those teacher's deserved it.

I can't believe you would say that. Do you know that there is a very high precentage of teachers that have been assaulted in their career? It is ridiculously high. My mother was one of them. Her student was kicked out of 3 classes before hers. It was the students that reported it because they were so tramatized. Teachers are highly underpaid and underappreciated.

[Thetagirl218]

Originally Posted by RaggedyAnn

I can't believe you would say that. Do you know that there is a very high precentage of teachers that have been assaulted in their career? It is ridiculously high. My mother was one of them. Her student was kicked out of 3 classes before hers. It was the students that reported it because they were so tramatized. Teachers are highly underpaid and underappreciated.

Agreed! Being a teacher myself I totally agree! While nothing so serious has happened to me (I have only been pushed around and called several cuss words), I can honestly say that those teaching in public school have an uphill battle on their hands. When I was in college, one of my supervising teachers had death threats nearly every day. Another friend of mine (who happens to teach those with special needs) has had broken fingers, black eyes, a broken arm, and bites and cuts so deep she had to go to the ER. All this and she went back into her classroom and kept teaching, even when she was offered a transfer.

All this is probably one of the reasons I currently teach in private school!

[jon1856]

If you wish to see just what kind of coverage this has gotten; click on the links:
http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/st...161052,00.html?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/U...ow/2918836.cms
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...rnational/home
http://www.irishexaminer.com/irishex...403-qqqx=1.asp
True, they picked up AP's feed but they did run it.

As for comment about the kids from "Pros":
Did Kids Know Consequences?
Investigators now say an alleged plot by nine third graders at an elementary school in Waycross to attack, possibly even kill, their teacher was the mastermind of a 9-year-old girl.

But the question remains, what motivated them? Did the third graders really know the consequences of what they were planning?
Waycross investigators say their plot at Center Elementary was shockingly organized, detailed, and disturbing. Police say a 9-year-old girl was the ring leader, who led eight other third grade students.

Investgators said each of them had a role, including handcuffing the teacher, hitting her with a paper weight, stabbing her, and then, cleaning up the mess.
http://www.11alive.com/news/article_...storyid=113942

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Thetagirl218

Agreed! Being a teacher myself I totally agree! While nothing so serious has happened to me (I have only been pushed around and called several cuss words), I can honestly say that those teaching in public school have an uphill battle on their hands. When I was in college, one of my supervising teachers had death threats nearly every day. Another friend of mine (who happens to teach those with special needs) has had broken fingers, black eyes, a broken arm, and bites and cuts so deep she had to go to the ER. All this and she went back into her classroom and kept teaching, even when she was offered a transfer.

All this is probably one of the reasons I currently teach in private school!

I have to ask this question..what is the difference between kids in public school and private school as far as behavior?

I taught in public school a few years back and my students were very rarely problems...I accredit most of that success due to having a very close rapport with thier parents and an open door policy for them to drop in when needed.

I just still simply believe that kids and what they do in the school system is based on what kind of interaction and relationship the schools themselves have with families of thier students...

[SWTXBelle]

Most of the kids who had a discipline problem at the private school at which I taught were actually refugees from the public school system - one I'm thinking of had been kicked out of her public school because she assaulted a teacher. She was NUTZ and should not have been admitted, in my opinion. But overall, I think students rise to your expectations.

And they are now reporting that the 9 year old "mastermind" of the plot threatened another student with the knife (I'm sure she deserved it ) and that is how the plot came to light.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by RaggedyAnn

I can't believe you would say that. Do you know that there is a very high precentage of teachers that have been assaulted in their career? It is ridiculously high. My mother was one of them. Her student was kicked out of 3 classes before hers. It was the students that reported it because they were so tramatized. Teachers are highly underpaid and underappreciated.

Agreed. My mom (and several of my aunts) have been teachers for at least a couple of decades now and they have seen the kids get progressively worse behavior-wise.

And the parents? "what??? My angel wouldn't do that!!!!!" Whatevs. Those kids need some discipline.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

just trying to add some balance. Special Ed teachers, while some are angels, some are devils. I know. I went through the system. But untill i see indisputable proof that the kid did that for no reason, I will assume it was the teacher at fault, as everyone else seems ready to blame the student.

No i'm not Kidding. I'm not being deliberately offensive, but if you're offended I couldn't care less.

There are more bad people than good that teach special ed. I wouldn't be surprised at all if those teacher's deserved it.

She disciplined (another article used the word "scolded") one of the students for standing on a chair.

That bitch. Cut her!

This article reports that experts are now saying they doubt the kids would have actually followed through with the attack. That's fine and all, but the fact that a bunch of 9-year-olds were even TALKING about doing something like this in such detail is disturbing -- bringing gloves, assigning kids to cover the windows and others to clean up the blood -- agh!

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

She disciplined (another article used the word "scolded") one of the students for standing on a chair.

That bitch. Cut her!

This article reports that experts are now saying they doubt the kids would have actually followed through with the attack. That's fine and all, but the fact that a bunch of 9-year-olds were even TALKING about doing something like this in such detail is disturbing -- bringing gloves, assigning kids to cover the windows and others to clean up the blood -- agh!

whatever happened to simply putting a thumbtack in her chair.....?

or a 'kick me' sign on her back....

[SWTXBelle]

Or how about - if a teacher is out of line, telling your parents and having them go to the administration?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Or how about - if a teacher is out of line, telling your parents and having them go to the administration?

or worse...accepting the fact that your bad @ss needs to do as your teacher instructed you to do...LOL

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

She disciplined (another article used the word "scolded") one of the students for standing on a chair.

That bitch. Cut her!

pretty much

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

just trying to add some balance. Special Ed teachers, while some are angels, some are devils. I know. I went through the system. But untill i see indisputable proof that the kid did that for no reason, I will assume it was the teacher at fault, as everyone else seems ready to blame the student.

No i'm not Kidding. I'm not being deliberately offensive, but if you're offended I couldn't care less.

There are more bad people than good that teach special ed. I wouldn't be surprised at all if those teacher's deserved it.

You are saying that bad special education teachers deserve to be killed or pushed down stairs? Does that really make sense to you?

I'm not really offended but I'm thinking you're a little unhinged, maybe just about this issue, I don't know. I don't care if you don't, but if you're posting your opinions and you want to sell an idea, maybe advocating the murder of bad teachers isn't the way to go.