DARK/LIGHT...SKIN COLOR.........Is this still an issue? Let's be honest Sorors & SF'

[AKA2D '91]

Originally Posted by Velocity_14

LMAO....you are the best! I spit out my drink because I started thinking about Dave Chappell (sp?). Yep!

Well, I have stayed away from this thread for a number of reasons. However, I decided to take a read today. Wow...well...all I will say is that my parents had a darkskinned *insert ANY adjective here*child....a girl to be exact...and word on the street is she is the shizzle!

'Cause if YOU don't think so....who else will?




ETA: I'm sad because I'm thinking about my Sororfriend and hubby who have tried desperately to have a child. She just completed a series of treatments where she had to take shots 2 and 3 times a day. After completing the process, she STILL can't have a child. I'm sure they would not care what he/she looked like as long as she could ONLY carry a child to term.

[AKA_Monet]

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[Nikki7980]

It will always be an issue...i think light skinned people have it easier than those with dark skinned. Being light is as close to white as it gets. I'm dark-skinned and proud of it!

[AKA_Monet]

Flipping the script...

They aren't really light-skinned... They aren't really white...





I have seen 2-3 people in my lifetime who look like this. I do not know anyone personally. Little girl has a cute smile!!!

This genetic mutation has occured for millions of years and parents who bring the child to adulthood, usually are shunned. It is culturally taboo to have one of these children. Which is rather sad because I think that is where hatred of one's skin started with this anthropological and genetic mutation...

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Flipping the script...

They aren't really light-skinned... They aren't really white...





I have seen 2-3 people in my lifetime who look like this. I do not know anyone personally. Little girl has a cute smile!!!

This genetic mutation has occured for millions of years and parents who bring the child to adulthood, usually are shunned. It is culturally taboo to have one of these children. Which is rather sad because I think that is where hatred of one's skin started with this anthropological and genetic mutation...

I'm not trying to be smart, but what point are you making? I have seen quite a few Black Albinos. I have an aunt and cousin who are Albino. I never heard of it being culturally taboo (maybe it is in Africa). Albinos can be of any race; they are even among animals. I can still look at the people in these pictures and tell they are Black/African.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I'm not trying to be smart, but what point are you making? I have seen quite a few Black Albinos. I have an aunt and cousin who are Albino. I never heard of it being culturally taboo (maybe it is in Africa). Albinos can be of any race; they are even among animals. I can still look at the people in these pictures and tell they are Black/African.

There was this albino squirrel at the walking trail I walked on years ago.

Like you said, the facial features are the same. I'm sure there are cultural taboos because most humans aren't thrilled or completely informed at the concept of genetic mutations. Plus, among darkness, being the only one with bleached looking hair and pale skin will make one DIFFERENT. DIFFERENCES frighten people PERIOD. And I admit that having no pigmentation has a negative impact on the level of physical attractiveness for most of the albinos that I've seen.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I'm not trying to be smart, but what point are you making? I have seen quite a few Black Albinos. I have an aunt and cousin who are Albino. I never heard of it being culturally taboo (maybe it is in Africa). Albinos can be of any race; they are even among animals. I can still look at the people in these pictures and tell they are Black/African.

In some African countries it is considered taboo. And since Africa is thought to be the "cradle of the human population" at least genetically speaking, and the fact it still occurs and the fact that it occurs across animal species on the planet, even in unicellular eukaryotes, then it suggests that when the genetic mutation EVOLUTIONARILY occured in human populations, and the disparates it caused in human anthropological and cultural interactions, it easily explains how come there is such bitterness about the person's skin coloration... EVOLUTIONARY time takes 1000s if not millions of years...

How easy or hard would it be to develop a systemic bitterness issues to a whole well-rounded system of hate worldwide including historical events?

Also, humanity is similar genetically for all practical purposes. Sure, our genes may not be spelled the same for every locus (area), but nonetheless, the genes are in the same place at all times... These do not shift in 200-500 years. It takes more than 2-5 millenia to change, it at all. And modern humans are thought to have been on this planet for 15-20 millenia--150,000 to 200,000 years.

Here's a question, how genetically diverse is the European human population? And how dissimilar are they from Neaderthals or Cro-Magnon?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

In some African countries it is considered taboo. And since Africa is thought to be the "cradle of the human population" at least genetically speaking, and the fact it still occurs and the fact that it occurs across animal species on the planet, even in unicellular eukaryotes, then it suggests that when the genetic mutation EVOLUTIONARILY occured in human populations, and the disparates it caused in human anthropological and cultural interactions, it easily explains how come there is such bitterness about the person's skin coloration... EVOLUTIONARY time takes 1000s if not millions of years...

How easy or hard would it be to develop a systemic bitterness issues to a whole well-rounded system of hate worldwide including historical events?

Also, humanity is similar genetically for all practical purposes. Sure, our genes may not be spelled the same for every locus (area), but nonetheless, the genes are in the same place at all times... These do not shift in 200-500 years. It takes more than 2-5 millenia to change, it at all. And modern humans are thought to have been on this planet for 15-20 millenia--150,000 to 200,000 years.

Here's a question, how genetically diverse is the European human population? And how dissimilar are they from Neaderthals or Cro-Magnon?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Flipping the script...

They aren't really light-skinned... They aren't really white...





I have seen 2-3 people in my lifetime who look like this. I do not know anyone personally. Little girl has a cute smile!!!

This genetic mutation has occured for millions of years and parents who bring the child to adulthood, usually are shunned. It is culturally taboo to have one of these children. Which is rather sad because I think that is where hatred of one's skin started with this anthropological and genetic mutation...

Well...yeah...they are albino and albinoism occurs in every racial group. I have only seen black/African diasporic and white albinos in person, though.

So, suffice it to say that I would prefer that my child not be void of pigment. That's a taboo that is more than a cultural issue. It is not an issue of not wanting a child who is "too light" or "too dark."

But I figured today that someone was going to bring up albinos in this thread. And I didn't bring up albinos because that is a completely different topic.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Well...yeah...they are albino and albinoism occurs in every racial group. I have only seen black/African diasporic and white albinos in person, though.

So, suffice it to say that I would prefer that my child not be void of pigment. That's a taboo that is more than a cultural issue. It is not an issue of not wanting a child who is "too light" or "too dark."

But I figured today that someone was going to bring up albinos in this thread. And I didn't bring up albinos because that is a completely different topic.

Also Albinoism is a birth defect that comes with special care. My aunt and cousin can't go outside in bright light without wearing sunglasses among other things. This is entirely different from the genetic mutations that occurred to create a race of people from another.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Well...yeah...they are albino and albinoism occurs in every racial group. I have only seen black/African diasporic and white albinos in person, though.

So, suffice it to say that I would prefer that my child not be void of pigment. That's a taboo that is more than a cultural issue. It is not an issue of not wanting a child who is "too light" or "too dark."

But I figured today that someone was going to bring up albinos in this thread. And I didn't bring up albinos because that is a completely different topic.

I do not see it a separate topic when you understand human population genetics.

Didn't you read Dr. Frances Cress Welsing's Isis Papers? Is she accurate? Maybe not completely, but she does make valid points as does Dr. Marimba Ani's works. Malidoma Some also gets the relevant information.

Human migration patterns along with pre-Roman and Columbian circumnagivation and weather patterns do conclude that there make have been a planet catatrophe during MODERN human evolution that increased the number of albino births that may have developed into a epigenetic phenomena. Maybe not full albinism, but partial or gradual lightening of the skin over 20 generations.

It is also thought that Rickett's may have played a role. And because these's adults were shunned like "leprosy", they migrated to regions--without judgement.

And Kra-katoa supervolcano exploded, too... Changing the genetics of the human population through isolation--i.e. straighter hair, thinner lips, etc.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I do not see it a separate topic....

It is, though.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Nikki7980

I'm dark-skinned and proud of it!

I'm black and proud!

It just so happens that I'm a lightskinned black person.

Who has it tougher? Eh, what a waste of brain space. This thread isn't about that and to compare forms of struggle within a race is divide and conquer at its finest!

[WenD08]

i feel like she called us dark-skinned folks "darkies" or "jungle bunnies" by sharing.
who thought this stuff ended years ago? if you watch videos by OUR artists and add this person's feelings, you'll see that not much has changed.
Intraracism, gotta love it

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by WenD08

i feel like she called us dark-skinned folks "darkies" or "jungle bunnies" by sharing.
who thought this stuff ended years ago? if you watch videos by OUR artists and add this person's feelings, you'll see that not much has changed.
Intraracism, gotta love it

More like "intraprejudice." We currently aren't talking about blacks who are withholding opportunities and resources based on colorisms.

An important note is that we are all products our environments as much as we fuel our environments. Black artists who are in the mainstream will do what sells. This comes from the larger society as well as from black community norms.