DARK/LIGHT...SKIN COLOR.........Is this still an issue? Let's be honest Sorors & SF'

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by RedVelvet

Seriously?

Maybe she's scared they'll get hit by a car if they walk on asphalt roads. Who would see them?

[Jill1228]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Because it isn't enough to just pray for healthy kids?

or to even be blessed with one at all, especially if you desperately want one? Don't get me started

Nappy Bison, that is a great video. I feel you about the Black Barbies.
Last weekend, I was in Toronto for my godchild's baptism. As you can guess from the picture, she is biracial (mom is Black and dad is White). My friend (the mother) and I had a conversation about this very topic and dolls. It really peeves her when people (mostly in her mom's church) say, "she is so beautiful and look at that LIGHT skin." WTF? She wouldn't be pretty if she were medium or dark skinned like her mother?

In reference to the dolls:
The paternal grandmother of my godchild (who is Scottish) sent her a doll from England. (you can see the feet of the doll in the picture). The doll's name happened to be MULATTO. My friend and I were like, "Oh no she didn't!"
Part of us loved the fact that she did not up and get a White doll, but dude, did she have to get one named Mulatto?

[Little32]

Originally Posted by 5Knowledge1913

I do not dislike dark-skinned people, but I don't want daqrk-skinned kids. Simply being honest.

This just makes me sad for you.

[5Knowledge1913]

Originally Posted by RedVelvet

Seriously?

Serious as a heart attack!

[DSTCHAOS]

Well, I have to say that people are being really nice to 5Knowledge1913 right now.

If people weren't so baffled and felt so sorry for her frame of mind, the responses would've been different. I know that I'm holding back.

[Little32]

I am just too baffled for words. I don't even know how to responds to that comment from someone who was ostensibly born in the last 60 years.

I guess that whole black is beautiful movement fell on deaf ears here.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Little32

I am just too baffled for words. I don't even know how to responds to that comment from someone who was ostensibly born in the last 60 years.

I guess that whole black is beautiful movement fell on deaf ears here.

Unfortunately, there are people of racial and ethnic groups who don't want their kids to be of the darker shades.

They don't articulate it the way 5knowledge did but they will say things like "get out of the sun, you're dark enough."

5knowledge made the confession and left it open-ended so we can infer whatever reasoning from it.

[Little32]

I guess I frequently associate that kind of thinking with people much older than what I perceive your soror to be. I just don't know how to respond to it; except to feel sad for a person who's perspective is so limited.

I agree with the notion that all I would want is for my children to be healthy and beautiful (which they would be because they would be my children), however that health and beauty might be packaged.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by NappyBison

Just ran across a video that made me think about this thread...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0BxF...eature=related

Pardon the crash, but that youtube link was amazing, those young women so impressive. The updated doll experiment made me .

[unspokenone25]

Originally Posted by 5Knowledge1913

I do not dislike dark-skinned people, but I don't want daqrk-skinned kids. Simply being honest.

Why?

[Still BLUTANG]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Well, I have to say that people are being really nice to 5Knowledge1913 right now.

If people weren't so baffled and felt so sorry for her frame of mind, the responses would've been different. I know that I'm holding back.

i'm also confused... i mean, sure people feel the way they feel... but what can you DO about it? how do you prevent having dark skinned kids? i'm being serious here. marry someone light skinned? or white? that doesn't automatically guarantee a lighter complected child.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Pardon the crash, but that youtube link was amazing, those young women so impressive. The updated doll experiment made me .

You better stop thinking you're crashing all the time.

People in American have learned how to talk all of this progressive mumbojumbo but the reality of the matter is that things haven't changed all that much. Folks have just gotten better at saving face.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Still BLUTANG

i'm also confused... i mean, sure people feel the way they feel... but what can you DO about it? how do you prevent having dark skinned kids? i'm being serious here. marry someone light skinned? or white? that doesn't automatically guarantee a lighter complected child.

It definitely doesn't because thank God that we all come in different shades, shapes, and sizes. My family reflects the different shades of blackness and it's wonderful. From the lightest light to the darkest dark.

It's amazing to me because there are people who consider themselves to be geneticists or breeders and they seek out partners who will give them a "pretty baby" based on whatever standards. That's idiocy.

Now, if 5knowledge meant that she's afraid of how her dark skinned baby would be treated by others, I challenge her to first address her fears and then prepare her child to maintain high self esteem to buffer what the world may bring her/him. From there she can focus on schooling ignorant people who are afraid of DAHHHHKNESSS!!!

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by 5Knowledge1913

Serious as a heart attack!

okay I was going to leave your original comment alone until I saw this which tells me that you are not ashamed of your twisted thoughts. Perhaps you're even proud of them.

Honesty or no honesty, this kind of thinking is not cute at all. Even if I thought like this, I would keep it to myself (while I tried to deal with and get rid of these thoughts) because I would be ashamed to admit to others that I let "Massa" get into my head and succeed at his "divide and conquer" tactics.

That's exactly what you've done. I just hope you never have the opportunity to bestow that kind of thinking on a beautiful dark child because it will only destroy their self-esteem.

As far as we've come on the journey to loving ourselves, anyone who feels this way without recognizing that it is wrong and without trying to do something (counseling maybe?) to work on themselves and get rid of these thoughts, chooses to feel that way.

Just my 22 cents.

[DSTCHAOS]

Did this come from "massa," though?

I think a lot of it comes from North America ideals and "divide and conquer" tactics but throughout this world's history cultures always had ways of dividing and ranking. Before "race," there was color, class, family lineage, gender, etc.