The first sorority to demand equal rights

[Thetagirl218]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

So then let's talk about the sorority that participated in the suffragette movement as their first major act after being founded.

Mary Ritter Beard was a Theta from the Alpha chapter at Depauw and she was huge supporter of women's rights and suffrage.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

OH NOEESS WHAT WILL YOU EVER DOOO??!!!11shift+1shift+1

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Thetagirl218

Mary Ritter Beard was a Theta from the Alpha chapter at Depauw and she was huge supporter of women's rights and suffrage.

That is good. But you are talking about one person and I am talking about one of the premises from which a sorority was founded.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Thetagirl218

Mary Ritter Beard was a Theta from the Alpha chapter at Depauw and she was huge supporter of women's rights and suffrage.

Great info!

Was women's suffrage also a national and local initiative for Theta?

Delta Founders marched in the 1913 Women's Suffrage March in D.C. (during a time where there were huge racial inequalities to compound the huge gender inequalities).

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

So . . . male students already had the right to iron (after hours, no less) and female students wanted that right as well? I can't help but wonder if the men were availing themselves of the right to iron.

And the right to smoke, too, huh. I wonder . . . did that include smoking in letters?

Ha.

Equal rights mean equal rights. If men can pick lint in the cafeteria but women can't, that's a problem. Well...you get the point.

<----Believes that every decent human being should be a feminist, however they express it

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

OH NOEESS WHAT WILL YOU EVER DOOO??!!!11shift+1shift+1

Hi, Elephant Walk. Yes...yes...we see you and you are somebody.

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Oh, and oldu, that's Mrs. Collins. Her maiden name was Love -- she married Mr. H.M. Collins, but not sure what happened to him -- they must have divorced at some point soon after they were married, for he was never "in the picture."

Why is it inaccurate to use Ms.? I thought that was perfectly acceptable for married and unmarried women alike. Am I mistaken?

[aopirose]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

I remember doing some search and seeing that there was a Delta Beta chapter of Chi Omega at Maryland, founded in 1923, and she didn't know anything about it. I even emailed someone from Chi Omega's HQ asking them when the 1923 chapter had closed, but she didn't know, she only said it must have closed "shortly thereafter", which made me wonder if it was even installed.

In some old papers that I have, it says that the chapter became inactive in 1923. It may not be 100% accurate but it would explain what is in the AOII history book. I was just looking at it and it speaks of absorbing Lambda Tau (formed in 1920) and chartering as the first national sorority on October 25, 1924.

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Your thread title is misleading, i.e. should have said equal rights in campus life. Some sororities had bigger fish to fry other than the demand to be able to smoke or iron after hours--like the right of women to vote. Why don't you research that?

ETA: to some of us equal rights has a much deeper connotation.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by ThetaDancer

Why is it inaccurate to use Ms.? I thought that was perfectly acceptable for married and unmarried women alike. Am I mistaken?

I think you use "Ms." for all if you don't know their marital status. Her friends called her "Mary Love," (as if it was a double name) but formally, she was Mrs. Collins.

Plus, I thought oldu would be interested that Mr. Collins was somewhat of a mystery!

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

That is good. But you are talking about one person and I am talking about one of the premises from which a sorority was founded.

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Great info!

Was women's suffrage also a national and local initiative for Theta?

Delta Founders marched in the 1913 Women's Suffrage March in D.C. (during a time where there were huge racial inequalities to compound the huge gender inequalities).

Generally speaking, women's GLOs were founded because women needed to support each other in being a minority among the student population. Think about it, the first women to attend college were no doubt feminists. It comes as no surprise to me that the first college to admit women was also the birthplace of the first women's GLO.

[DSTCHAOS]

Yet not every sorority was actively involved in national and local equality initiatives.

On an organizational level, it isn't enough to just exist. It isn't even enough to just be able to boast that one of your chapters was able to get equal ironing and smoking rights on campus.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Ms. Chi-O

It's in really poor taste to not think enough of her and her accomplishment to call her Mrs. Collins.

Of course I could completely be attaching a different meaning to your point. Hint. Hint.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Yes, Mary Love Collins was something else. I'm quite sure had she lived several decades later, she would have been President of the United States.

Oh, and oldu, that's Mrs. Collins. Her maiden name was Love -- she married Mr. H.M. Collins, but not sure what happened to him -- they must have divorced at some point soon after they were married, for he was never "in the picture."

Hijack: Every time I see "Mary Love Collins" I read "Martha Layne Collins" who is a former governor of the Commonwealth of Kentucky and also a (University of Kentucky) Chi Omega.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Touche.

I hate feminists though. I've never found you offensive, personally, but I still stick by what I wrote- I think there are better ways to showcase the accomplishments of the NPHC than downplaying the accomplishments of others.

And I'm always slow on the uptake, so I still can't figure out what the hint was from your last post.

What you hate are gender feminists. I'm guessing you have no problem w/ equity feminists.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

I hate feminists though.

You hate extremists.

Female and male Feminists want equality.

Originally Posted by SECdomination

showcase the accomplishments of the NPHC than downplaying the accomplishments of others.

Eh...we aren't showcasing the accomplishments of the NPHC.

There were NPC, NPHC, and nonaffiliated women marching and working alongside one another throughout this country's history. Those who can't relate to fighting for causes larger than themselves at a national level (we aren't critiquing chapter stuff here) were just existing, as far as many of us are concerned. So a thread like this should have more in it than what happened at UofM in 1923. That's an okay starting point but what next? Certainly this isn't incredibly interesting to many people as it stands.

But let's pretend that you are not completely confused right now:
I find it interesting that you and your cyber pals run around GC ranking fraternities and dismissing what other chapters do because they aren't SEC (or whatever). I rarely see you celebrating what your fraternity as a collective has accomplished or even what your and other chapters have accomplished for the local communities and society. Do you see the hypocrisy here?

Originally Posted by SECdomination

And I'm always slow on the uptake, so I still can't figure out what the hint was from your last post.

That much is obvious.