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03-23-2008, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gtdxeric
A lot can happen in a weekend. One time, guys from a chapter that was visiting mine got in a bar fight at a campus bar... wearing letters. It's worse if there's no bond of friendship between the two chapters and the visiting chapter is in town just to party, and hasn't given the host chapter time to prepare or the option to decline.
With that said, the things discussed in this thread are decisions that only the President of the chapter has to make. For all other members of the chapter, whatever the situation, I'd say to be hospitable and give them whatever benefit of the doubt you think they deserve, but keep your eyes open. If you feel like it, you might direct them toward things you think they would enjoy, but that would keep them relatively out of trouble.
There's actually something in my pledge manual about this, I'll dig it up later.
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That's a legitimate concern, as I was saying...the visiting chapter just not being "cool" isn't.
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03-23-2008, 05:05 PM
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Visiting chapters
Back to the op - I would look at it in the same respect as in dealing with distant family members. In true southern style, my family is spread far and wide, and we all know our genealogy. They are family, but that doesn't mean I would contact my second-cousin once removed and ask to be put up for the weekend. I would feel comfortable contacting a distant family member, saying I would be in the neighborhood and would like to meet them over lunch or dinner.
Same for my sorority sisters. I always feel a bond with my sisters whom I've meet from far and wide. If I were an active and some sisters called about visiting, I'd love to meet them - but without knowing them wouldn't commit to a weekend or to putting them up in the house. So - my take on it is if fraternity brothers from XYZ want to visit, I'd suggest they come visit the house for a tour, maybe tell them where the brothers meet on Friday night and offer to help them find a hotel to stay in. That would be enough hospitality, imho. If you are having an event like a football or basketball game they could attend with you, great.
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03-23-2008, 05:11 PM
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I'm not saying they're my best friends but we share the same fraternal values and rituals. Why shouldn't there be a bond? If you don't get t then you missed something along the way.
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You don't know that. If you claim that every single member of your organization holds your fraternity's values and rituals in the same light as you do...........then you are incredibly, incredibly naive.
Champ, there are member of your fraternity that joined so they could live in a fraternity house, drink, and screw. They don't care about your ritual or the values that your founding fathers preached. They care about learning it so they can get initiated. If you think otherwise, you need to get a clue.
You are so ass deep in trying to make us look like lesser fraternity men than yourself, you don't even realize how ridiculous the things you are saying truly are.
I'm still waiting for you to tell me how I "don't get it."
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03-23-2008, 05:25 PM
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in my days in the house, we had sister guests from time to time. while we did not have a bad experience with any of the guests, they were in town to visit boyfriends or were passing thru on their way farther south and they treated the house more like just a place to stay. we did not issue them keys, so they had to work around our schedules for coming and going.
my father in law tells of a time in his fraternity house when they had visitors from another chapter staying, and the president of his chapter asked him and other brothers to give up their rooms for the weekend. when my fil returned to his room, he discovered that the visiting brother who had stayed there had helped himself to his clothes and bed linens.
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03-24-2008, 12:10 PM
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When I was in school we called (I forget which it was) either our chapter at Penn State or the AGD chapter (my roomie's bio sister was an AGD) and wanted to come up and stay with them. They were not jazzed and said no. At the time we thought they were being bitchy, but when I look back we were the ones being jerks - it was on HOMECOMING weekend and they had to have tons of people there (and they don't have a house, just suites).
It's one thing to have 2 girls/guys come to visit, it's quite another to have a dozen plus.
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03-24-2008, 01:29 PM
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Depending on the circumstances of course along with timing we must remember that if you are a vistor of another Chapter, act like ladies/gentlemen, Sisters/Brothers, or never be able to come again.
The respect is earned, not given because of ritual and name.
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03-24-2008, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Earp
Depending on the circumstances of course along with timing we must remember that if you are a vistor of another Chapter, act like ladies/gentlemen, Sisters/Brothers, or never be able to come again.
The respect is earned, not given because of ritual and name.
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I totally agree; I would treat my sisters from other chapters with respect and would want the same respect if we had visiting sisters.
In the same vein of thought, I think the same thing applies for alumni who come back onto campus for various events. A fraternity I know of had a handful of alumni stay in the house over homecoming weekend and actually had to tell them that they were no longer welcome back overnight due to the destruction and horrific behavior that was displayed by these brothers.
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03-24-2008, 02:45 PM
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While you're at it, tell me about this isolated little world I live in. Please, I want to hear about it. You are obviously man enough to talk shit on a message board.....how about you substantiate your claims.
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The problem is, we'll likely never hear from him again in something similar to a hit-and-run.
Whatever. Making ad hominem attacks is something that is a specialty here.
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03-24-2008, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Earp
Depending on the circumstances of course along with timing we must remember that if you are a vistor of another Chapter, act like ladies/gentlemen, Sisters/Brothers, or never be able to come again.
The respect is earned, not given because of ritual and name.
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Couldn't have said it better myself........this is Tom Earp correct?
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03-24-2008, 03:19 PM
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Come back in 10 years and see who's laughing at who.
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They're already laughing (at you).
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03-24-2008, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
Inferiority complex much?
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I'm not the one talking/bragging about tiers and dressing "fratty" and how my chapter is so much better then everyone else. So, how has the inferioirty complex? Hmmm..that'd be you.
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03-24-2008, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by macallan25
PS - While you're at it, learn how to spell. If you are going to feed me a bunch of insulting garbage, at least appear to be educated.
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Yeah, because I care so much about something I typed to 2 minutes in response to insignificant little piss ants like yourself who live in a little, isolated, parochial, self delusional world. You fratty types are not worth the effort of spell check.
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03-24-2008, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PhiKapSkulls
Yeah, because I care so much about something I typed to 2 minutes in response to insignificant little piss ants like yourself who live in a little, isolated, parochial, self delusional world. You fratty types are not worth the effort of spell check.
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Hahahhahahah.
Good cry there champ.
I don't need your charity, if you want to come across like an uneducated dumb......knock yourself out.
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03-24-2008, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PhiKapSkulls
I'm not the one talking/bragging about tiers and dressing "fratty" and how my chapter is so much better then everyone else. So, how has the inferioirty complex? Hmmm..that'd be you.
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Bragging about tiers? In which way? That doesn't even make sense. In fact I degraded my University because I don't think it's all that good for Greek-life compared to the other Universities in the South. I would like to understand how that's "bragging" about anything
Even further I don't brag about dressing "fratty". It's just how someone is suppose to dress. It's not bragging. Just traditional. Normal.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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03-24-2008, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rufio
give them the benefit of the doubt. who knows, you guys may end up liking each other.
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This i've got to agree with. We have a similar situation (SECDomination... if you're a UF student then wow. The similarities are probably endless, or of course, I might just know you) where the attitudes are so different that it is awkward having them over. All the same, there's more than enough good in everyone not to have any trouble finding that for a weekend. Besides, I would at least expect the courtesy of being able to visit other chapters almost impromptu, so why wouldn't I extend that courtesy myself. housing... maybe some advance notice of about a week or two, but it looks like they did that.
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