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Old 03-20-2008, 06:54 PM
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This situation has put the racial divide in this country on Front Street for the whole world to see.
THIS situation? After all these years and everything that has happened in this country with structural inequalities compounded by blatant -isms and discrimination, THIS did it? Seriously?

The assertion that this incident has any lasting implications for race relations and race dialogue is a reminder that we have years and years and years until we see substantive change.

ETA: I have always loved Tim Wise. If people are unfamiliar with him http://www.timwise.org/
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:28 PM
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I have always loved Tim Wise.
Me too.

Great article. The only things shocking about Wright's statements are the reaction to them and the ignorant assertion that it was shared by most Blacks.
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:03 PM
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THIS situation? After all these years and everything that has happened in this country with structural inequalities compounded by blatant -isms and discrimination, THIS did it? Seriously?

The assertion that this incident has any lasting implications for race relations and race dialogue is a reminder that we have years and years and years until we see substantive change.

ETA: I have always loved Tim Wise. If people are unfamiliar with him http://www.timwise.org/
true, but something about it occuring during a presidential campaign when a Black man is running gives it more punch, imo.
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:24 PM
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true, but something about it occuring during a presidential campaign when a Black man is running gives it more punch, imo.
But this isn't what put it on front street.

As an aside, any American who is claiming to just notice the racial divide in this country has seriously had their head up their asses. If that supposedly applies to the average American then this country is a hopeless cause. Unsurprisingly.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:55 PM
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But this isn't what put it on front street.

As an aside, any American who is claiming to just notice the racial divide in this country has seriously had their head up their asses. If that supposedly applies to the average American then this country is a hopeless cause. Unsurprisingly.
I think we have different definitions for front street. For me it means having this discussion become more broad based. Of course people know the racial divide exists, I just think now folx are talking (and being confronted) about it like I have never seen before.
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:11 AM
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I think we have different definitions for front street. For me it means having this discussion become more broad based. Of course people know the racial divide exists, I just think now folx are talking (and being confronted) about it like I have never seen before.
I hear ya.

"Front street" to me means to call attention to something at any level. America has been called out over and over and over again throughout the years.

As far as I'm concerned, the attention is still very minimal. White people and news engines talking about it doesn't mean much in the longrun. This is a passing fad that hasn't had/won't have the huge impact that folks are pretending that it has/will have. Folks who are still looking for a quick fix of sorts need to keep searching or roll up their sleeves and do some real work toward change.
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:36 AM
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I hear ya.

Folks who are still looking for a quick fix of sorts need to keep searching or roll up their sleeves and do some real work toward change.
I totally agree.
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I don't think it is a quick fix, but it is nice to see people talking about it (outside of the media) because my (mostly) very conservative co-workers are actually talking about the speech. It's simply a drop in the bucket, but you have to actually turn the faucet on to get anywhere. Too many people suffer from "don't talk about it, it's not there" or "don't talk about it, all we'll do is fight."
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