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Old 02-24-2008, 12:45 AM
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"Shame on you, Barack Obama"

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CINCINNATI -- An angry Hillary Rodham Clinton scolded Democratic presidential rival Barack Obama today for campaign mailings that she described as false and shameful attacks on her record.

Clinton's rhetorical blast, the most bellicose of her campaign, came 10 days before Ohio and Texas primaries that could doom her candidacy if she fails to stop her 11-contest losing streak.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,4798090.story

I don't like this a bit. While what Obama has said is "true," I believe he's put a negative spin on it. This is exactly what I was hoping he would not do. Then again, Clinton has no business getting upset about it when she has been dirty throughout the entire campaign.
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Old 02-24-2008, 12:53 AM
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I say "Go McCain".

I'm over the Dems acting like children.

Yea, Obama is inspiring when he talks, but I don't really think he has any kind of experience to back any of it up as a President. Maybe in a few years... And Hillary... I don't know about her...she just seems sketchy.

I'm not even a Republican either.
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Old 02-24-2008, 01:07 AM
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I say "Go McCain".

I'm over the Dems acting like children.

Yea, Obama is inspiring when he talks, but I don't really think he has any kind of experience to back any of it up as a President. Maybe in a few years... And Hillary... I don't know about her...she just seems sketchy.

I'm not even a Republican either.
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Old 02-24-2008, 02:54 AM
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http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,4798090.story

I don't like this a bit. While what Obama has said is "true," I believe he's put a negative spin on it. This is exactly what I was hoping he would not do. Then again, Clinton has no business getting upset about it when she has been dirty throughout the entire campaign.
Wait so it's "true" but . . .

Knock it off.
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Old 02-24-2008, 02:58 AM
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It is very possible that her campaign knew about the mailings before the conference where she voiced her outrage. I like how he always seemed to take the high road. However, based on the article, he didn't seem to attack her character, only her healthcare plan. Along with her previous attacks, her "change you can Xerox" comment during the debate was calloused, and not well-received. It may be a little late for her to play the victim.
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Old 02-24-2008, 04:10 AM
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Here's my take: The mailings are a month old. I read a discussion of how they are very similar (perhaps intentionally) to images used against the idea when Hillary Clinton promoted her health care during Bill's presidency. This "moral outrage" comes off as a mother scolding a child... and in a way that makes them mom look bad. Maybe it's my age but she came off overly upset, not justifiably so. The sort you respond to with an .

Oh yes, and btw:

Gee... attacking on healthcare is wrong? (Also, please note that the last quote on there is actually from HER as reported on CBSNews.com. Not from a reporter, she's quoting herself.)

I see this as staged outrage and nothing else and she doesn't adequately respond to the "attacks" in the mailings that oh-so-completely offend her.

ETA: Video of Hillary's OMG
Video of Obama's response

More fun links: What if we're nuked on day one!
The NAFTA mailer from Obama
An image purportedly from a mailer
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:18 AM
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I say "Go McCain".

I'm over the Dems acting like children.

Yea, Obama is inspiring when he talks, but I don't really think he has any kind of experience to back any of it up as a President. Maybe in a few years... And Hillary... I don't know about her...she just seems sketchy.

I'm not even a Republican either.
I was watching the debate the other night and Hilary just looked very smuged to me. That really just bugged the crap out of me. And I really haven't caught the Obama fever yet (turning in my black card right now)

GO McCain. I'm not Republican either
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Old 02-24-2008, 12:24 PM
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I was watching the debate the other night and Hilary just looked very smuged to me. That really just bugged the crap out of me. And I really haven't caught the Obama fever yet (turning in my black card right now)
I have the same issue with Clinton. I know the campaign changes daily, but during the debates she acts all nice and then the next day comes with another charge. This has been happening ever since her "crying I found my voice" moment in New Hampshire. If she has that 35 years of experience she claims, shouldn't she already have a voice?

I'm just tired of it on both sides.
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Old 02-24-2008, 01:25 PM
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Hillary reminds me of a big crybaby. She claims that Obama won't be able to handle all of the pressures of being a president and she can. By the looks of her recent bipolar behaviors, (I'm honored to be sitting next to Barak Obama/Shame on Barak Obama) she'd crack under pressure.
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Old 02-24-2008, 02:08 PM
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Also, please note that the last quote on there is actually from HER as reported on CBSNews.com. Not from a reporter, she's quoting herself.
LOL

ETA: Drolefille, I just checked out the links and had a bad grammar moment on this one:

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture1-1.png

Which...don't??? Who wrote that?
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Old 02-24-2008, 02:23 PM
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The mailers have been out for a while, why is she just NOW appalled, hurt, etc....
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Old 02-24-2008, 02:46 PM
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LOL

ETA: Drolefille, I just checked out the links and had a bad grammar moment on this one:

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture1-1.png

Which...don't??? Who wrote that?
Does "which" always have to be singular?
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Old 02-24-2008, 03:10 PM
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Does "which" always have to be singular?
The question is asking "which one of these people" so the correct verb is "does not deserve" not "do not deserve."
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Old 02-24-2008, 04:33 PM
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He has been in the Junior Senate for 2 years. Seriously? In a time like we are in right now (we've got a "war" in Iraq... we still have people looking for Osama... the economy is a mess and we are several trillion $$'s in national debt) I would prefer someone who has more than 2 year's worth of experience... but that's just me.

And I do find it hilarious that when any news channel talks to people outside of Obama rallies, they are all psyched up but when asked, none of them can tell reporters why they support him or any of this accomplishments. They must really just like the words "change" and "hope" a lot.

He is very well spoken and does a good job of getting people excited, but it takes waaaaay more than that to run a country. But that's just IMHO. If you think differently, rock on with your bad self
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:21 PM
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The question is asking "which one of these people" so the correct verb is "does not deserve" not "do not deserve."
No, it doesn't actually if you read the poster at the link. It says "which of these people" which I think could be either singular or plural depending on if you could only choose one or more than one. (unless it's been changed)

Unless I'm missing something, there's no reason why one would assume only one of the group pictured doesn't deserve health care, rather than two or three.

(This assumes of course that everyone is entitled to health insurance as a matter of governmental responsibility, rather than my real response which would be "which among those people can afford to purchase health insurance ands elects not too?" Those don't deserve it, IMO.)

I'm with you though, that it seems awkwardly phrased, and have I written the slogan, I would have figured some other way of expressing it so that no one would question if it was grammatical.

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