Pledge possibly lying about military service..

[Xidelt]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Would this guy be in ROTC if he had already served? I thought ROTC was for PRE-service?

enlisted service personnel can go to college and participate in ROTC. my brother knew several men who had prior service as enlisted personnel in his ROTC program in college.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by elusive47

First, if you haven't done this already, have a meeting with your chapter's brothers and tell them about what you've heard about this particular pledge.

Second, have another meeting with the pledge, yourself, the pledge educator, and your chapter president. Give the pledge an opportunity to explain himself, and tell his side of the story. If possible, ask for documented proof that he is in the military, like a military ID card, all servicepeople should
have one.

Third, If you find that the pledge has lied about his service record, discuss, amongst your chapter brothers, possible repercussions for the pledge. This can range from giving him the opportunity to redeem himself in his pledgeship all the way down to his being dropped from the pledge program.

Fourth, reach an agreement with your pledge brothers about what to do with regards to the pledge. Call the pledge back into a meeting with his pledge educator, yourself, the chapter president, etc. and notify him of your decision.

*I know you stated that you didn't want to confront the pledge to his face, but there's no way, that I know of, that you can legally access someone's service record without their knowledge.

I disagree with every single piece of this advice.

1. There is no point in starting drama with the other brothers in case he is legit.

2. No need in starting unnecessary drama between the pledge and this guy if he is legit. If everything is confirmed true, you can always go to this guy and tell him that you have confirmation and to stop talking shit.

3. There are absolutely NO repercussions for this kind of act, except immediate dismissal. If they can lie about that, they will lie about anything. If you've ever been involved with a pathological liar, you'd (in general) know.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

I disagree with every single piece of this advice.

1. There is no point in starting drama with the other brothers in case he is legit.

2. No need in starting unnecessary drama between the pledge and this guy if he is legit. If everything is confirmed true, you can always go to this guy and tell him that you have confirmation and to stop talking shit.

3. There are absolutely NO repercussions for this kind of act, except immediate dismissal. If they can lie about that, they will lie about anything. If you've ever been involved with a pathological liar, you'd (in general) know.

I agree with your assessment. I'm just not sure how you're going to get the real information about the guys service without risking a little drama in a confrontation with the pledge. I really wonder what the ROTC guys know.