Divine 9 For Obama t-shirts

[DSTKellie]

Love Obama. Hate the Shirt.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by DSTKellie

Love Obama. Hate the Shirt.

Co-sign! I know that folks are just trying to get their hustle on but....

[ljkelly]

I actually like the shirt and I bought it...I feel what everyone is saying about making a buck off the orgs but I liked the fact that 25% went to the campaign and that it is cute. I heard yesterday about the letter to the company so I probably won't even get the shirt if they are told to stop making them...

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ljkelly

I actually like the shirt and I bought it...I feel what everyone is saying about making a buck off the orgs but I liked the fact that 25% went to the campaign and that it is cute. I heard yesterday about the letter to the company so I probably won't even get the shirt if they are told to stop making them...

This is why there needs to be a centralized "force" to keep companies from making and distributing these things. Individual members can't be left to their own devices.

[ljkelly]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

This is why there needs to be a centralized "force" to keep companies from making and distributing these things. Individual members can't be left to their own devices.

Individual members can't be left to their own devices? Hmm, okay...while I said I understand the point being made about companies making money off the orgs and that it could be a "slippery slope" but that is something that is already done with vendors all over who are not getting clearance from nationals. I see thongs with letters on them and I know that no one's nationals said that was okay...I made the decision to buy the shirt because I think it is for a good cause and it, in my opinion, did not represent the org in a negative light.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ljkelly

Individual members can't be left to their own devices? Hmm, okay......I made the decision to buy the shirt because I think it is for a good cause and it, in my opinion, did not represent the org in a negative light.

So you agree with me.

[ljkelly]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

So you agree with me.

No, I can't say that I do...I believe that I can be left to my "own devices".

[5Knowledge1913]

Originally Posted by ljkelly

Individual members can't be left to their own devices? Hmm, okay...while I said I understand the point being made about companies making money off the orgs and that it could be a "slippery slope" but that is something that is already done with vendors all over who are not getting clearance from nationals. I see thongs with letters on them and I know that no one's nationals said that was okay...I made the decision to buy the shirt because I think it is for a good cause and it, in my opinion, did not represent the org in a negative light.

Sistergreek, I do not think that any one is trying to attack you.

The problem with that shirt, as cute as it may be, is that if someone were to see you wearing it, with AKA symbols on it, it could imply that AKA was supporting a candidate which would be electioneering and could cause your organization to lose its tax exemption.

Yes, I've seen thongs and other crap with our letters on it, however, those things may not cause the organization to lose its tax exempt status. They are tacky yes, but the IRS doesn't care about a thong with AKA on it, but it does care about a tshirt stating that AKA supports Obama, Clinton, Nader or any one else.

Whether the entire organization supports the person or not is irrelevant, all it takes is one person wearing that shirt to cause a stir (as it has!).

[jojapeach]

^^^ Your tone is more civil than some.

The site is now http://www.greeksunitedforobama.com/home.html, and he added a disclaimer about not being affiliated wth NPHC. Interesting that there are links to the Obama website on his website as well as if Sen. Obama might be okay with this website...

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by ljkelly

Individual members can't be left to their own devices? Hmm, okay...while I said I understand the point being made about companies making money off the orgs and that it could be a "slippery slope" but that is something that is already done with vendors all over who are not getting clearance from nationals. I see thongs with letters on them and I know that no one's nationals said that was okay...I made the decision to buy the shirt because I think it is for a good cause and it, in my opinion, did not represent the org in a negative light.

Basic NPHC 101. We are 501 (c)(7)s and as such cannot endorse a candidate. Thus the issue is not how cute they are, or where proceeds will be sent. The issue is our tax-exempt status with the IRS.

And if our own members don't understand this, why would a vendor care?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

And if our own members don't understand this, why would a vendor care?

She said she understands this but just didn't care. Stop being mean, right?