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Old 03-05-2008, 11:09 PM
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I'm not predicting there won't be ANYthing for critics to feed on once the Clinton tax return is released, but I think Obama's team are mainly reacting to the talking heads last night that said he was getting dinged by the Rezko thing and the staff member/Canadian official dealings and he needed to hammer on the "question" about her releasing her returns to try to deflect some stuff on her. Everything I've read in response to what's been lobbed is that their 2007 return will be released on or around April 15th. Isn't that tax day? Is it unreasonable they don't file/release their return until tax day?

And all of her papers have been given back to the Archives from what I understand and it's up to them to release them.
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Old 03-05-2008, 11:40 PM
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I'm not predicting there won't be ANYthing for critics to feed on once the Clinton tax return is released, but I think Obama's team are mainly reacting to the talking heads last night that said he was getting dinged by the Rezko thing and the staff member/Canadian official dealings and he needed to hammer on the "question" about her releasing her returns to try to deflect some stuff on her. Everything I've read in response to what's been lobbed is that their 2007 return will be released on or around April 15th. Isn't that tax day? Is it unreasonable they don't file/release their return until tax day?

And all of her papers have been given back to the Archives from what I understand and it's up to them to release them.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...linton-hiding/

It doesn't appear to be just the 2007 return. It's all their returns since they left the White House.

I don't really believe that it's the archive that won't release her papers. I think it's terms that she set (or Bill set).

http://www.newsweek.com/id/57351

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Old 03-06-2008, 12:27 AM
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...linton-hiding/

It doesn't appear to be just the 2007 return. It's all their returns since they left the White House.
Ok, I misspoke. According to the article, they plan to release all of those returns on or about April 15th. Real judgement can come after that happens (or if at that point it doesn't happen).

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I don't really believe that it's the archive that won't release her papers. I think it's terms that she set (or Bill set).
http://www.newsweek.com/id/57351
You do realize that article is from October 2007, right?

Let's join each other in 2008. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...022902989.html

Great last line:"So calling on the Clintons to release their papers makes for great campaign theater. But it's theater that has no bearing on reality."
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:41 AM
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I really don't care how rich or poor any of the candidates are, and whether they had to take out student loans to get their law degrees or not. For that matter, I really don't care too much how they do their taxes, either. All of these things are distractions from the important stuff, and I really think the democrats should shut their mouths and stop bringing up stuff that could haunt the party when it gets to the general election. The Democratic party insiders and strategists really need to have more foresight. If they thought to anticipate what media or the Republicans might say/do later, they wouldn't do some of the stuff they do.
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:42 AM
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I really don't care how rich or poor any of the candidates are, and whether they had to take out student loans to get their law degrees or not. For that matter, I really don't care too much how they do their taxes, either. All of these things are distractions from the important stuff, and I really think the democrats should shut their mouths and stop bringing up stuff that could haunt the party when it gets to the general election. The Democratic party insiders and strategists really need to have more foresight. If they thought to anticipate what media or the Republicans might say/do later, they wouldn't do some of the stuff they do.
I think that the financial stuff is actually relevant since there's a perception in the public mind that some folks have been bought or are beholden or just in bed with some pretty distasteful folks financially. The sources of income are worth knowing in my opinion. But I don't hold it against anybody that they are rich.

I agree with what you are saying about it being smarter not to damage each other, but it also may be the case that airing it now makes it seem like old news by the general election. There's just no way to know.
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:39 AM
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Ok, I misspoke. According to the article, they plan to release all of those returns on or about April 15th. Real judgement can come after that happens (or if at that point it doesn't happen).

You do realize that article is from October 2007, right?

Let's join each other in 2008. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...022902989.html

Great last line:"So calling on the Clintons to release their papers makes for great campaign theater. But it's theater that has no bearing on reality."
The article I posted is less than five months old. I don't think that much has changed.

The law says that the materials should be available to the public five years after an administration ends. The documents aren't. Perhaps they should have started the vetting process within the five year window, so the documents would be available now.

While you are accepting of a Washington Post's editorial page contributor's take, I'm not. I think the Clintons are happy with the hold-up, or they would make more things available themselves, like the tax returns.

And if they hadn't had a reputation for withholding documents that might be damaging, I think I'd be more accepting of the claims in the article. But they were, and I'm not.

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