Sorositute

SWTXBelle · #1 03-02-2008, 01:23 PM

Well, there were certainly a few who defended it as non-offensive, and even stated they didn't know of any sorority women who would be offended.

So, I figured I'd find out if I am totally out of touch, what with being old and all. I would HOPE it would be a runaway win for offensive, but I don't want to assume.

summer_gphib · #2 03-02-2008, 01:28 PM

Very offensive.

UGAalum94 · #3 03-02-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Well, there were certainly a few who defended it as non-offensive, and even stated they didn't know of any sorority women who would be offended.

So, I figured I'd find out if I am totally out of touch, what with being old and all. I would HOPE it would be a runaway win for offensive, but I don't want to assume.

But you realize of course that a run-away win for offensive here under the conditions you've described doesn't mean much in terms of what might be going on any particular campus, right?

It just means that you're complete in touch with GreekChat.

Even in real life, it'd be hard to get a sense of it because few undergraduate woman are going to admit to an alumna that they're cool with being called a sorostitute, just as they wouldn't admit that they thinks it's okay to have stupid pictures up on Facebook. Their actual practices might be quite different.

texas*princess · #4 03-02-2008, 01:35 PM

i would say that generally speaking, i would think women love being called "Sororsitutes" about as much as guys like their fraternities called "Frats"... except for maybe PhiGam... he likes the word "fratty".

DSTCHAOS · #5 03-02-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess

i would say that generally speaking, i would think women love being called "Sororsitutes" about as much as guys like their fraternities called "Frats"... except for maybe PhiGam... he likes the word "fratty".

You mean guys in certain types of fraternities. "Frat" isn't universally offensive.

So the only way that could be an analogy would be if we acknowledge that "sorostitute" isn't universally offensive and move on.

Leslie Anne · #6 03-02-2008, 01:36 PM

When I was a collegian -

Now -

ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl · #7 03-02-2008, 02:46 PM

On an individual basis, when deserved....funny. Sorry. I am ok with calling it as I see it. If she's acting like a ho...well then...

To describe a whole chapter or Greek women in general...not funny at all. Personally, I'm not a skank, and I don't appreciate people assuming I am because I'm greek. And because most of my friends are guys I take that kind of stuff with a grain of salt, always, but that particular one really makes me mad.

SWTXBelle · #8 03-02-2008, 02:54 PM

Even with individual behavior, why drag the "soro" into it? Call a spade a spade, and a slutpuppy whoredog a slutpuppy whoredog. Unless that would be offensive to dogs. Hmmmmm . . .I'm going to have to think about this.

SWTXBelle · #9 03-03-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

On an individual basis, when deserved....funny. Sorry. I am ok with calling it as I see it. If she's acting like a ho...well then...

To describe a whole chapter or Greek women in general...not funny at all. Personally, I'm not a skank, and I don't appreciate people assuming I am because I'm Greek. And because most of my friends are guys I take that kind of stuff with a grain of salt, always, but that particular one really makes me mad.

I was addressing the general concept behind your response, not necessarily just you personally, AGDSquirrelGirl. Sorry if I was not clear.

But one aspect you don't address in this, your earlier response, is the question of the "whore" and "prostitute" connection. Do you really run across many women who are having sex for money? That is, after all, the actual meaning of those words. A slut, or skank, on the other hand, is sexually promiscuous. So, if you are going to congratulate yourself on calling a "ho a ho", then it should be someone who is having sex for money. I'm guessing you probably don't REALLY run across many of them.

I think at this point we can say that whether or not people find the term offensive depends on where and how it is used. Some of us find the term demeaning, no matter who is using it, while others think it can be amusing if used among friends. I don't think anyone thinks the word is always appropriate.

One reason so many of us find it offensive is the marrying of the term "sorority" with "prostitute".As we all know, just because you are Greek does not mean you are sexually promiscuous. (And it sure doesn't mean you are having sex for money) If nothing else, maybe all this discussion will have people thinking about the words they use and the impact they can have. If you are joking around with your friends and tossing this word around and are overheard by non-greeks, you shouldn't be surprised to find they continue to believe the stereotypes.

ForeverRoses · #10 03-03-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

One reason so many of us find it offensive is the marrying of the term "sorority" with "prostitute".As we all know, just because you are Greek does not mean you are sexually promiscuous. (And it sure doesn't mean you are having sex for money) If nothing else, maybe all this discussion will have people thinking about the words they use and the impact they can have. If you are joking around with your friends and tossing this word around and are overheard by non-greeks, you shouldn't be surprised to find they continue to believe the stereotypes.

I have read this entire thread, and this quote sums up my views perfectly. I don't care if it has become acceptable to some, it is still the combination of sorority and prostitute.

AGDee · #11 03-03-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

I have read this entire thread, and this quote sums up my views perfectly. I don't care if it has become acceptable to some, it is still the combination of sorority and prostitute.

Co-sign. Offensive

ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl · #12 03-03-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I was addressing the general concept behind your response, not necessarily just you personally, AGDSquirrelGirl. Sorry if I was not clear.

But one aspect you don't address in this, your earlier response, is the question of the "whore" and "prostitute" connection. Do you really run across many women who are having sex for money? That is, after all, the actual meaning of those words. A slut, or skank, on the other hand, is sexually promiscuous. So, if you are going to congratulate yourself on calling a "ho a ho", then it should be someone who is having sex for money. I'm guessing you probably don't REALLY run across many of them.

I think at this point we can say that whether or not people find the term offensive depends on where and how it is used. Some of us find the term demeaning, no matter who is using it, while others think it can be amusing if used among friends. I don't think anyone thinks the word is always appropriate.

One reason so many of us find it offensive is the marrying of the term "sorority" with "prostitute".As we all know, just because you are Greek does not mean you are sexually promiscuous. (And it sure doesn't mean you are having sex for money) If nothing else, maybe all this discussion will have people thinking about the words they use and the impact they can have. If you are joking around with your friends and tossing this word around and are overheard by non-greeks, you shouldn't be surprised to find they continue to believe the stereotypes.

Whore to most people my age is going to mean slut. So is ho. So is skank. I am not "congratulating" myself, but I'm not going to apologize for calling it as I see it. And I don't expect anyone to refrain from calling ME out if I'm doing something ridiculous, either. If I'm doing something to negatively effect my chapter, then I expect them to tell me that, no problem. Sometimes people don't realize how their actions effect others.

Just because you are Greek does not mean you are NOT sexually promiscuous, either. Some people are, some people aren't, and that's just their personal choice. The problem with doing it while belonging to a sorority is the reputation you give the whole chapter. Just like a girl who, say, gets ROWDY drunk in public regularly, or a girl who would rather go out than study, they need a wake up call.

James · #13 03-02-2008, 01:43 PM

The post by UGalum is wise.

The term doesn't offend me. But I wouldn't use it to a sorority girl I didn't know well and that didn't know I was joking.

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

But you realize of course that a run-away win for offensive here under the conditions you've described doesn't mean much in terms of what might be going on any particular campus, right?

It just means that you're complete in touch with GreekChat.

Even in real life, it'd be hard to get a sense of it because few undergraduate woman are going to admit to an alumna that they're cool with being called a sorostitute, just as they wouldn't admit that they thinks it's okay to have stupid pictures up on Facebook. Their actual practices might be quite different.

Leslie Anne · #14 03-02-2008, 01:54 PM

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The term doesn't offend me.

Of course it doesn't offend you. You're not someone who it would be directed to.

SWTXBelle · #15 03-02-2008, 02:09 PM

The conditions were made because what is okay between you and your friends is one thing. Those who were defending the use of the term are sincere, I believe, in thinking that because it's okay amongst their buddies it's always okay. The point I made in Fraternity Rush is that you can't assume others you don't know won't be offended. Since we were talking about recruitment, we were talking about groups that contain lots of people you don't yet know.

I have friends IRL who would be offended - but as far as having my finger to GC's pulse, naw. Just because I feel a certain way I know far too well I can't assume everyone here will agree with me. ALTHOUGH MAYBE THEY SHOULD! I think that many people would actually be more likely to post here with their true feelings, as there is a certain degree of anonymity.

It would be interesting to hear from more actives - perhaps there is an age gap in being offended. Actives, is it common and accepted to use the term on your campus?