Multiple school chapters

[arvid1978]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

You have an awful lot of maybes, feelings, and probablies going on here.

This is from my perspective from here in Illinois, where pretty much every school specifically prohibits students from other campuses joining RSO's on their campus. Any organization that is doing it in this state is most likely disregarding school policies (either knowingly or not), or is not directly chartered as an RSO to that school (which is ok, just makes them not 100% officially university affiliated)

I'm sorry, I should have clarified that I meant many groups often flaunt school policy and not imply that it is something unique to NPHC groups. I say it happens in socials more often because how often do you see in various student newspapers that a social is losing their charter for breaking various policies? A lot more often than you see non-greeks, guaranteed.

[GMUAPhiOAdvisor]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Wow! I wonder what chapter Mt. Vernon used to be part of?!

The Deltas at Georgetown and American used to also take girls from Mt. Vernon.

For some reason, I keep thinking UDC, but I didn't see them as having a chapter (according to your FABULOUS chart!)

But it could as easily have been any of the others....we're talking 19 years ago! I'm a little brain dead at this point! LOL

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by GMUAPhiOAdvisor

For some reason, I keep thinking UDC, but I didn't see them as having a chapter (according to your FABULOUS chart!)

But it could as easily have been any of the others....we're talking 19 years ago! I'm a little brain dead at this point! LOL

LOL.....don't worry, I can't remember things from 19 DAYS ago, lol

Also, I didn't list the schools that have self-contained chapters of NPHC organization, which include Howard and UDC.

But here is an addendum of NPHC and NALFO orgs which have self-contained chapters at DC schools:

Howard: All 9 orgs
UDC: All 9 orgs
GW: All sororities are self contained (AKA, Delta, Zeta, LPC, SLU) but none of the fraternities are
American: AKA and Phi Beta Sigma are self-contained (but I think PBS would be open to Georgetown men)

I would guess that your RA joined the AKAs at American...I'm going to look into that now, curiosity is getting the best of me. MVC has a history and culture that ought to be studied a little more.

[Senusret I]

"On February 25, 1977, the charter members were initiated into Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority,
Inc., and Lambda Zeta Chapter was chartered at American University on February 26, 1977.
At one time the Lambda Zeta chapter included young women from Mount Vernon College,
which is now George Washington University at Mount Vernon, and Georgetown University,
until the city chapter, Omicron Pi was chartered."

http://aulambdazeta-aka.org/Page1History.html#History

[Senusret I]

I'm so sad it only took 2 minutes to find that out. Now what am I going to do with the rest of my morning?

lol

[arvid1978]

Originally Posted by GMUAPhiOAdvisor

Hold on a second. I'm feeling a little chastized here. I did specifically tell the National Office that I wanted to Rush because I was planning to transfer to that school. And I didn't want to lose out on being part of a group I would have joined anyway. And my initiating chapter DID receive permission to bid me. So, the National Office was clearly aware of how I was becoming a brother.

Also, I agreed to follow all the rules and regulations of the university, just as anyone who attends an event on campus is expected to do. Had I failed to do so, I would have been asked to leave the campus and/or the chapter, just as any other student would have been. As for student activities fees, I offered to pay the school and was told it wasn't necessary.

Just clarifying, but I want to make it clear that all rules were followed and nothing was done "improperly" in my situation.

I'm not chastizing you, I'm giving my opinion why it was pulled. Your chapter did it correctly, but there are many out there who did not. It is very unfortunate that you were made to feel second-class considering you were granted full rights by national bylaws. I also submit that this "second class citizen perception" is another reason it may have been pulled.

I'm also not saying you didn't agree to follow rules and regs of the host campus, but that doesn't mean you were bound to them by anything other than your word. You're a good person of character, obviously, but there are plenty of people out there who are not, and schools have taken steps to protect themselves and their students from liability. Part of that is limiting who may participate in groups that are sponsored and recognized by that campus.

Those two brothers I talked about who were pledged in when according to the rules they should've have...they were some of the most dedicated to APO people I have seen, especially considering they stayed involved at the Section staff level while they were waiting until they transferred. One of them had been in APO for 3 1/2 years when their membership was nullified, when they had been told previously that everything was OK.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by GMUAPhiOAdvisor

Thanks, Randy......it feels good to be loved!

Yup. The closest I ever got to that sort of left behind feeling was when I got my National id card. I was Kappa chapter brother 890A. (For some reason, when assigning chapter numbers for my chapter, my pledge class went 893, 894,...,899,890A,891A,...899A,900,901,902,903.

*still* have no idea what caused the hiccup.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I'm so sad it only took 2 minutes to find that out. Now what am I going to do with the rest of my morning?

lol

Figure out which of the NHPC have *undergraduate* chapters outside of the USA?

Randy

[Senusret I]

Alpha: University of Toronto
AKA: University of the Virgin Islands
Kappa: University of the Virgin Islands
Omega:
Delta: University of the Virgin Islands (St. Croix and St. Thomas), College of the Bahamas
PBS:
ZPB:
SGRho:
Iota:

Okay I gave up LOL

[Senusret I]

(I am counting territories as outside of the continental USA)

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Alpha: University of Toronto
AKA: University of the Virgin Islands
Kappa: University of the Virgin Islands
Omega:
Delta: University of the Virgin Islands (St. Croix and St. Thomas), College of the Bahamas
PBS:
ZPB:
SGRho:
Iota:

Okay I gave up LOL

OK, I've never known with the NPHCs when they list chapters in places like Germany, Liberia and Japan if they are talking about Undergrad chapters.

Randy

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Alpha: University of Toronto
AKA: University of the Virgin Islands
Kappa: University of the Virgin Islands
Omega:
Delta: University of the Virgin Islands (St. Croix and St. Thomas), College of the Bahamas
PBS:
ZPB:
SGRho:
Iota:

Okay I gave up LOL

SGRho: University of the Virgin Islands (St. Thomas)

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

For my fraternity: Chapter is chartered at one school, the chapter seat.
Chapter receives permission from the school to include members from other campuses.
If chapter does not maintain minimum numbers at the chapter seat, the school may withdraw recognition.
It has been the case that a chapter can be recognized simultaneously at two or more schools, if they have the members at both places.

I have no idea how issues of insurance are worked out.

FYI, and because I know you love charts like this:

Alpha Phi Alpha, Nu Beta Chapter: American, Georgetown, GW, Catholic
Alpha Kappa Alpha, Omicron Pi Chapter: Georgetown, Catholic, Trinity
Kappa Alpha Psi: American, Georgetown, GW
Delta Sigma Theta, Iota Iota Chapter: Catholic, Trinity
Delta Sigma Theta, Nu Alpha Chapter: American, Georgetown
Zeta Phi Beta, Sigma Pi Chapter: American, Trinity
Lambda Upsilon Lambda, Chi Chapter: American, Georgetown, GW
Lambda Pi Chi, Epsilon Chapter: American, Georgetown
Alpha Nu Omega, Iota Chapter: American, Georgetown

We have these kind of chapters also but we call them Metro chapters.

One example would be our Beta Delta chapter, hosted on the campus of Temple University and it includes Temple, La Salle, Drexel, and Univ. of PA.