Clinton/Obama Debate. Who will be watching?

[EE-BO]

I watched the debate. And I think Hillary won again, as I think she did in Austin. I have followed her career and even seen her speak live before- and Austin was one of her best nights ever.

Tonight was more low key and serious and I think she fared better than Obama because of it. She is much smarter, more pragmatic and more specific.

Obama stumbled several times- as he did in Austin- and as usual I really have no clear idea of how he is going to achieve what he promises.

Plus he just made a lot of stupid and sweeping statements. He actually at one point made reference to Exxon's profits last quarter and said Exxon would not let go of those profits easily. As if he has the right to just take profit from a private company?! This is Hugo Chavez talk. Where are the Obamas when oil prices are low and oil companies are losing money? How about the millions of US citizens who make good livings in the oil industry? Do they not count like the auto industry workers Obama is so desperate to court?

Sadly, this will not matter. I still think Ohio and Texas are toss-ups, but those who have already drunk Obama's Kool-Aid are not likely to focus on the subtle nuances of how he has presented himself in these last 2 debates as compared to Hillary in terms of substantive commentary.

To be fair, I don't think Obama is an idiot- far from it. I just fear his Kennedy-like approach to campaigning- especially since he is, like Dan Quayle, no Jack Kennedy.

Kennedy was one of the worst Presidents of all time from a foreign policy perspective with the Bay of Pigs incident and how he initiated our involvement in Vietnam- a good idea, but not executed with a strategy to win definitively.

That said Kennedy was brilliant on social issues- easily the greatest President of all time along with LBJ in that arena. And on that score I do not see Obama with the same degree of vision to execute policy like Kennedy did- nor is there the same degree of need now that there was back then. It is not an equal world- and it never will be- but we are certainly at a point where it is not as critical on the priority list as it has been in the past.

At a time when this nation is financially suffering under the burden of social entitlements and amid a very tense international situation that was inevitable- I don't think this is the time for an Obama Presidency, assuming there is ever a time for him.

[preciousjeni]

I laughed out loud at Obama's response about bombing Pakistan. I think they both did well and both stumbled in places.

[jon1856]

I wanted to watch it but:
1) I just found out that my FIOS does not carry MSNBC
2) And it seems as if the MSNBC web coverage was over-loaded.

[pinkies up]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I laughed out loud at Obama's response about bombing Pakistan. I think they both did well and both stumbled in places.

I like the way he said Pakistan.

I'm an Obama girl. Hillary just left me with all of the bipolar symptoms she's been displaying. At times she was looking at Obama like she wanted to slap the ish out of him. And the SNL crack was simply unprofessional. Why whine about who gets the first question??? (and she's supposed to be ready on day one...)

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

I watched the debate. And I think Hillary won again, as I think she did in Austin. I have followed her career and even seen her speak live before- and Austin was one of her best nights ever.

Tonight was more low key and serious and I think she fared better than Obama because of it. She is much smarter, more pragmatic and more specific.

And hysterical.

Not like ha-ha, but like cuckoo and irrational.

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

[Kappamd]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

And hysterical.

Not like ha-ha, but like cuckoo and irrational.

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

Lol. I completely agree.

I haven't seen any of the other debates, so I don't know if she is normally as wound-up and obnoxious as she was last night, but I thought she was hysterical. (I think Brian Williams thought so too).

She needs to take a chill pill if she wants people to take her seriously.