"Shame on you, Barack Obama"

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

But he's been a US Senator for a relatively short period of time, and I don't usually think that community organizer, civil rights lawyer, state legislator, 1/2 a Senate term, President of the US is the usual progression. And isn't Lincoln kind of the exception, rather than the rule? Aren't most serious candidates either long term US Senators or Representatives or Governors, in which position we assume they have experience with the executive branch?

On the other hand, Hillary's own experience isn't all that much deeper if we judge her strictly for positions she was elected to or selected for on her own merits. I only mean experience that we'd think for the Presidency; I think she's an accomplished lawyer in her own right and I'm not trying to diminish that.

(I say this knowing I would have voted for Fred Thompson and he's have the same "experience" weakness using this standard.)

Well, some of the most "experienced" presidents have been the worst. Nixon ran on experience for example. He has a decent amount of state legislative experience, he's familiar to politics without being an "insider" which appeals to me. And Senators don't usually do well in national elections because so many of the Senate votes are "bad" no matter which way you vote.

Honestly the fact that he's not stuck in the Washington politics is more appealing to me. I think he and Clinton have similar levels of experience and I like him better. Thus making that choice relatively easy for me.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Honestly the fact that he's not stuck in the Washington politics is more appealing to me. I think he and Clinton have similar levels of experience and I like him better. Thus making that choice relatively easy for me.

I think it's sometimes easier to run with no record because you're untainted, but consider the Jimmy Carter era. He's regarded as a man of great character today, but it's hard to make a case that his Presidency was good time for the USA. I think Obama would be better than Jimmy, but I'm still finding Obama a little insubstantial and not having been inside DC forever can have some drawbacks.

I prefer Obama to Clinton too, but McCain to both of them, I think.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I think it's sometimes easier to run with no record because you're untainted, but consider the Jimmy Carter era. He's regarded as a man of great character today, but it's hard to make a case that his Presidency was good time for the USA. I think Obama would be better than Jimmy, but I'm still finding Obama a little insubstantial and not having been inside DC forever can have some drawbacks.

I prefer Obama to Clinton too, but McCain to both of them, I think.

Yeah I pretty muched missed the Jimmy Carter era and since recent history is the least taught (how much do you know about the Revolutionary War? The Civil War? WWII? Now, what about the 70s ((if you weren't alive for them)) ) I'll admit to not having a lot of perspective.

McCain, well I just don't trust him. He's a panderer and, imo, a liar. And I don't give a damn who he slept with or whether he did but lobbyists should not be making phone calls from a campaign bus. He's in bed with them, if you'll pardon the pun.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Yeah I pretty muched missed the Jimmy Carter era and since recent history is the least taught (how much do you know about the Revolutionary War? The Civil War? WWII? Now, what about the 70s ((if you weren't alive for them)) ) I'll admit to not having a lot of perspective.

McCain, well I just don't trust him. He's a panderer and, imo, a liar. And I don't give a damn who he slept with or whether he did but lobbyists should not be making phone calls from a campaign bus. He's in bed with them, if you'll pardon the pun.

Obama may be squeaky clean in this area, but I don't think most candidates are. I don't know how long he'll stay clean if elected.

McCain is at least my third choice, but I don't think I'm going to be able to vote for Obama. I don't care about him being unproven domestically very much, but his inexperience in terms of foreign policy and national security has me thinking I'm going McCain.

And I strongly prefer Obama to Clinton.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I don't care about him being unproven domestically very much, but his inexperience in terms of foreign policy and national security has me thinking I'm going McCain.

While most of what McCain has on his website regarding his ideas surrounding foreign policy is tame, some of his comments in person have been a bit disconcerting. I'm in favor of more diplomatic measures and I'm rather tired of America's hubris and isolationism when it comes to other world governments. For example, we currently have a very pro-American French ally and we are not fostering that relationship in any useful way.

[texas*princess]

[preciousjeni]