What makes Greek life "hot" in the south?

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I have male family members that were greek at an expensive, elite Ivy League college in the north and got the crap hazed out of them.

So would they be cool with you guys?

What does hazing have anything to do with it?

And I'd like to say that if we would get along, DKE at Yale because they're so steeped in tradition.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

What does hazing have anything to do with it?

Originally Posted by PhiGam

And if you're wondering what real pledgeship means... maybe you should find out what bows and toes means first.

I guess my inference of the implication is off-base... but I don't think so.


ETA: and maybe you missed that I used the words "expensive" and "elite" because that seems to fit in the requirements being set forth as well... thought their "connections" and access to wealthy and elite stuff would make them cooler with you guys too...

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I guess my inference of the implication is off-base... but I don't think so.


ETA: and maybe you missed that I used the words "expensive" and "elite" because that seems to fit in the requirements being set forth as well... thought their "connections" and access to wealthy and elite stuff would make them cooler with you guys too...

I'm not saying you're off base... I'm saying that if you knew what bows and toes or elephant walk (lol) meant than you would understand what hes saying indirectly.
Also, the fraternities here are only about 600-900 per semester, its the sororities that are expensive.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I'm not saying you're off base... I'm saying that if you knew what bows and toes or elephant walk (lol) meant than you would understand what hes saying indirectly.

Are you talking about the meaning or purpose behind those hazing practices?

Are these practices only done for the cool fraternities in the South?

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I'm not saying you're off base... I'm saying that if you knew what bows and toes or elephant walk (lol) meant than you would understand what hes saying indirectly.
Also, the fraternities here are only about 600-900 per semester, its the sororities that are expensive.

I do know what "bows and toes" and "elephant walk (lol)" are, thus my assurance to you that clever "bonding" experiences like those are not new and in fact my male family members pledged in the "good old days" when hazing was de rigeur and much more of it was even above ground (the underground stuff was what you really had to fear -- they'd think what you guys call "bonding" these days is a cake walk).

And I'm cross-quoting you two again, this time in reverse. The assurance that they have access to connections and wealth was in response to the standards laid out below. Their fraternities, chapters and the school they attended are also WAY steeped in tradition.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I've already established they were different. By our standards, inferior.

Fraternity life is so much more than just brotherhood.

It's regional tradition, rites of passage, a status symbol, a method of gaining wealth through connections and so on.

So, looks like they check off all the boxes, would they be cool with you, then?

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I do know what "bows and toes" and "elephant walk (lol)" are, thus my assurance to you that clever "bonding" experiences like those are not new and in fact my male family members pledged in the "good old days" when hazing was de rigeur and much more of it was even above ground (the underground stuff was what you really had to fear -- they'd think what you guys call "bonding" these days is a cake walk).

And I'm cross-quoting you two again, this time in reverse. The assurance that they have access to connections and wealth was in response to the standards laid out below. Their fraternities, chapters and the school they attended are also WAY steeped in tradition.


So, looks like they check off all the boxes, would they be cool with you, then?

If they share similar interests, which any good ivy leaguer probably would, then absolutely.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

If they share similar interests, which any good ivy leaguer probably would, then absolutely.

Super! I will let them know.

[SWTXBelle]

Just to clarify - Elephant Walk, you are from which fraternity and school? I think I know the other players in this discussion.


eta -OH - now I get it. Thanks.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I guess my inference of the implication is off-base... but I don't think so.


ETA: and maybe you missed that I used the words "expensive" and "elite" because that seems to fit in the requirements being set forth as well... thought their "connections" and access to wealthy and elite stuff would make them cooler with you guys too...

Hazing down south is military in nature. Not the bullshit that gets on the national news in California or some place like that. I would say that hazing in the south is in the middle-tier...it's not terribly hard, but it's not soft either...there's alot of other things that go with being a pledge besides hazing and that's what puts our pledge programs in the tops.

They do have better connections and more wealth. DKE at Yale does, at least. I don't know about the other fraternities in the Ivy League. The Ivy League seems to be the exception to the Northern stereotype.

edit: By the way jackass, I believe he was saying "you better find out what bowsandtoes (((((the poster))) means", not the hazing term"

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Hazing down south is military in nature. Not the bullshit that gets on the national news in California or some place like that. I would say that hazing in the south is in the middle-tier...it's not terribly hard, but it's not soft either...there's alot of other things that go with being a pledge besides hazing and that's what puts our pledge programs in the tops.

Interesting assumptions there.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

edit: By the way jackass, I believe he was saying "you better find out what bowsandtoes (((((the poster))) means", not the hazing term"

Hey, first of all, I'm female, secondly, I haven't called you any names, I'm not sure why you're starting that up, and third, if PhiGam meant YOU, the poster, I assume he would have written "find out what bowsandtoes means" not "find out what bows and toes means". I stand by my inference unless and until PG wants to tell me that's not what he was implying.