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02-20-2008, 10:46 PM
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O'REILLY: You know, I have a lot of sympathy for Michelle Obama, for Bill Clinton, for all of these people. Bill Clinton, I have sympathy for him, because they're thrown into a hopper where everybody is waiting for them to make a mistake, so that they can just go and bludgeon them. And, you know, Bill Clinton and I don't agree on a lot of things, and I think I've made that clear over the years, but he's trying to stick up for his wife, and every time the guy turns around, there's another demagogue or another ideologue in his face trying to humiliate him because they're rooting for Obama.
That's wrong. And I don't want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there's evidence, hard facts, that say this is how the woman really feels. If that's how she really feels -- that America is a bad country or a flawed nation, whatever -- then that's legit. We'll track it down.
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Please tell me how this isn't a racist comment. He wouldn't say he would go and lynch Hillary Clinton.
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02-20-2008, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pinkies up
Please tell me how this isn't a racist comment. He wouldn't say he would go and lynch Hillary Clinton.
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Never said that it wasn't...this is actually par for the course when it comes to Bill...but like I said earlier...why go chasing after him when we all know the end result.
and sadly enough...he said this while defending her...that's what makes this thing so dayumed hilarious
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02-20-2008, 10:52 PM
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Never said that it wasn't...this is actually par for the course when it comes to Bill....
and sadly enough...he said this while defending her...that's what makes this thing so dayumed hilarious
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Are you two serious?
Yikes.
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02-20-2008, 10:55 PM
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Are you two serious?
Yikes.
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not really....but think about DST....if this becomes another media circus, what's really going to happen? At worst same thing that happened to Imus...at least same thing that happened to Tilghman...it's a matter of who complains the loudest and who screams the most for Bill's head....and somewhere you wi;ll get the statement that you provided.
It's a farce if this gets bigger.
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02-20-2008, 10:58 PM
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not really
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*sigh of relief*
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
....but think about DST....if this becomes another media circus, what's really going to happen? At worst same thing that happened to Imus...at least same thing that happened to Tilghman...it's a matter of who complains the loudest and who screams the most for Bill's head....and somewhere you wi;ll get the statement that you provided.
It's a farce if this gets bigger.
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What happened to Imus was mean spirited, regardless of anything else, and that is a different context.
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02-20-2008, 10:59 PM
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*sigh of relief*
What happened to Imus was mean spirited, regardless of anything else, and that is a different context.
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different context true but if MSNBC's report makes this snowball, the end result will still somewhere be the same
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02-20-2008, 10:50 PM
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Please tell me how this isn't a racist comment. He wouldn't say he would go and lynch Hillary Clinton.
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musical interlude/
Ice Cube and the Lynch Mob, we're jackin' 4 beats!!!!
/musical interlude
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02-20-2008, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pinkies up
Please tell me how this isn't a racist comment. He wouldn't say he would go and lynch Hillary Clinton.
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Well, you're attempting to rally a group of people to lynch O'Reilly, when there's really no need for the torches at all.
See? That's not racist - in fact, there were "lynch mobs" before there were ever slaves in the United States. The ignorant connotation behind lynchings is somewhat specific, as we can show:
"He's getting lynched by the media!" <-- No connotation at all, but still probably something to avoid in direct reference to a black person because of historical racist crimes. O'Reilly forgot the second part, but the first part was exactly the opposite of how you described it. He likely would use that term in other situations, and likely has. I use it all the time - but then again, I'm from the north.
"(Something along the lines of) hang her from a tree!" <-- direct, explicit connection to abhorrent acts in the deep south. Inappropriate in almost every context. NOT how O'Reilly used the term.
Your point only stands on its own merits if he had actually said something directly offensive, as in the second case. He didn't - you're really projecting here. The term "lynch" is a completely valid descriptor, after all.
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02-20-2008, 11:38 PM
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Didn't Tiger come out and say something about leaving him out of this kinda crap? I heard that second-hand, and I've never really liked Woods, but if that was his attitude then I gained a little respect for him.
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02-21-2008, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KSig RC
Well, you're attempting to rally a group of people to lynch O'Reilly, when there's really no need for the torches at all.
See? That's not racist - in fact, there were "lynch mobs" before there were ever slaves in the United States. The ignorant connotation behind lynchings is somewhat specific, as we can show:
"He's getting lynched by the media!" <-- No connotation at all, but still probably something to avoid in direct reference to a black person because of historical racist crimes. O'Reilly forgot the second part, but the first part was exactly the opposite of how you described it. He likely would use that term in other situations, and likely has. I use it all the time - but then again, I'm from the north.
"(Something along the lines of) hang her from a tree!" <-- direct, explicit connection to abhorrent acts in the deep south. Inappropriate in almost every context. NOT how O'Reilly used the term.
Your point only stands on its own merits if he had actually said something directly offensive, as in the second case. He didn't - you're really projecting here. The term "lynch" is a completely valid descriptor, after all.
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Mentioning the word lynch and a black person isn't the smartest thing to do. There is no "oh, I didn't mean it like that"  Get real.
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02-25-2008, 02:17 AM
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Mentioning the word lynch and a black person isn't the smartest thing to do. There is no "oh, I didn't mean it like that"  Get real.
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Reading the transcripts makes it blatantly obvious that he in fact DID NOT mean it "like that." Its actually a smart move on his part because if this becomes a controversy then he becomes more famous and liberals look ridiculous.
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02-26-2008, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PhiGam
Reading the transcripts makes it blatantly obvious that he in fact DID NOT mean it "like that." Its actually a smart move on his part because if this becomes a controversy then he becomes more famous and liberals look ridiculous.
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 whatever. Some people will never understand racisim.
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02-26-2008, 10:05 PM
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 whatever. Some people will never understand racisim.
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And there goes any rational discussion. Complete and utter cop-out.
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02-26-2008, 10:47 PM
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 whatever. Some people will never understand racisim.
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Every comment you have made in this thread is borderline idiotic.
"Some people will never learn racism"???? Are you kidding me?
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02-26-2008, 10:52 PM
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Every comment you have made in this thread is borderline idiotic.
"Some people will never learn racism"???? Are you kidding me?
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Mr. Dumass-
I live in Mississippi. I know racisim like none other. The comment you just made isn't borderline idiotic, it's down right idiotic. To say, or infer, that you would lynch someone, or hunt them down, especially a black person, that is inappropriate.
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