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DaemonSeid 02-20-2008 04:41 PM

Yet another Bill O Reilly Goof
 
During the February 19 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Bill O'Reilly took a call from a listener who said of Michelle Obama, "I just wanted to say that I think Michelle Obama is an angry woman -- is speaking, I think, with her real voice for the first time." O'Reilly and his callers were discussing Obama's recent comments, which included her assertion that "[f]or the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country." When O'Reilly asked the caller, whom he identified as "Maryanne," "You're basing that on what?" she replied: "Well your representative asked me not to talk about this, but I have a friend who had knowledge of her and said to me months ago, 'This is a very angry,' her word was 'militant woman.' " O'Reilly then responded, "What I want you to do then, Maryanne ... I want you to stay on the line. ... Because it's not fair to Michelle Obama for you ... because we don't know who you are, and we don't know who your friend is, but we want to know. We want to know, OK. But it's not fair at this point for you to say, 'My friend said X and Y,' because we just don't know. But if you would give us your information, we would like to talk to your friend. And then whatever your friend tells us, we'll track it down. We'll do it in a fair and balanced and methodical way." He later added, "If indeed Michelle Obama is angry about something, if she has a history, we would like to know that, and then we can put it into some kind of context so that we can be fair to everybody."
O'Reilly then stated:
O'REILLY: You know, I have a lot of sympathy for Michelle Obama, for Bill Clinton, for all of these people. Bill Clinton, I have sympathy for him, because they're thrown into a hopper where everybody is waiting for them to make a mistake, so that they can just go and bludgeon them. And, you know, Bill Clinton and I don't agree on a lot of things, and I think I've made that clear over the years, but he's trying to stick up for his wife, and every time the guy turns around, there's another demagogue or another ideologue in his face trying to humiliate him because they're rooting for Obama.
That's wrong. And I don't want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there's evidence, hard facts, that say this is how the woman really feels. If that's how she really feels -- that America is a bad country or a flawed nation, whatever -- then that's legit. We'll track it down.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802200001

o well...Bill...nobody will probably pay you any mind anyway...

Bill it's just funny how you criticize someone for what they said and you commit the same error all in teh same breath even.

**coff** Kelly Tilghman **coff**

" I don't want to go on a lynching party unless...."

Wow....this stuff cracks me up....LOL

shinerbock 02-20-2008 06:58 PM

Am I reading this right?

O'Reilly said he wasn't interested in going after Michelle's comments unless he knew her true intent?

Is it just because he used the term "lynching"?

Seems like a bit of a reach if I'm understanding your post.

DSTCHAOS 02-20-2008 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1604634)
Is it just because he used the term "lynching"?

Yes just like that sports anchor's "lynch him in a back alley."

I understand O'Reilly's sentiment and really like O'Reilly. This was a nonracial comment that, if he had been thinking of the larger context, he would've expressed differently as to avoid the trouble.

shinerbock 02-20-2008 07:40 PM

I thought the Tiger Woods fiasco was overblown too. I thought the comment was inappropriate, but that was a different scenario in my opinion. The comment there was a joking "lets lynch him in a back alley," which would have been awkward, at best, even for a white golfer. It simply wasn't a professional thing to say.

I think this is more of a reach because it is simply a reference to a lynch mob scenario (which by definition is not racial, though the connotation is obviously there), which in my mind is a much more common usage and not particularly controversial.

I understand that the many people wince when a black person and the term "lynch" are used in the same paragraph, but I think in the O'Reilly type scenario we should simply let that be it. I don't really even think he should refrain from doing that, unless he justs wants to eliminate the possibility of word-choice questioning like this.

DaemonSeid 02-20-2008 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1604634)
Am I reading this right?

O'Reilly said he wasn't interested in going after Michelle's comments unless he knew her true intent?

Is it just because he used the term "lynching"?

Seems like a bit of a reach if I'm understanding your post.

Not reaching...laughing.

really think about it...that's par for the course for O'reilly....

I just hope and pray this doesn't become a stupid media circus when he is cornered into giving some half assed apology just to save his job.


and all because he was actually trying to defend Mrs Obama....heh

shinerbock 02-20-2008 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1604665)
Not reaching...laughing.

really think about it...that's par for the course for O'reilly....

I just hope and pray this doesn't become a stupid media circus when he is cornered into giving some half assed apology just to save his job.


and all because he was actually trying to defend Mrs Obama....heh

Fair enough. He's probably just thankful he doesn't work for MSNBC, otherwise he'd (have never been hired) be packing his stuff.

DaemonSeid 02-20-2008 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1604676)
Fair enough. He's probably just thankful he doesn't work for MSNBC, otherwise he'd (have never been hired) be packing his stuff.

Shiner...speaking of MSNBC....Keith Olbermann is talking about this now....


The circus now begins

They need to do this to Saliva's "Ladies and Gentlemen"

shinerbock 02-20-2008 09:52 PM

They're talkin about the lynching comment?

Who is it, Olbermann? I wouldn't be surprised considering he spends 80% of his time trying to attack O'Reilly.

DaemonSeid 02-20-2008 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1604744)
They're talkin about the lynching comment?

Who is it, Olbermann? I wouldn't be surprised considering he spends 80% of his time trying to attack O'Reilly.

yup...turn it on...quick....

and to be more specific..
the part of 'Lynching, unless...'

sigh....

pinkies up 02-20-2008 10:00 PM

Ummm, O'Reily is a racist fool. And the Tiger Woods comment was NOT overblown.

shinerbock 02-20-2008 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkies up (Post 1604757)
Ummm, O'Reily is a racist fool. And the Tiger Woods comment was NOT overblown.

You're right, we should make a racism scandal out of every stupid-yet-not-at-all-prejudiced comment someone makes. Good call.

pinkies up 02-20-2008 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1604759)
You're right, we should make a racism scandal out of every stupid-yet-not-at-all-prejudiced comment someone makes. Good call.

No, you're right. It's perfectly ok to walk around and say you're going to lynch black people. Better call.

DaemonSeid 02-20-2008 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkies up (Post 1604763)
No, you're right. It's perfectly ok to walk around and say you're going to lynch black people. Better call.

pinkies up.....


i have to actually side for once with shiner...


Like I said...if this gets overblown....what's gonna happen?


Let me tell you

Al Sharpton

Empty Apologies

Suspensions

Get another job.....



I will be honest with you...I hope he doesn't apologize....

Never fix your mouth to say something that you may have to apologize for later - Kanye West

DSTCHAOS 02-20-2008 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkies up (Post 1604757)
Ummm, O'Reily is a racist fool. And the Tiger Woods comment was NOT overblown.

How is O'Reilly racist?

I think the Tiger situation could have been handled with an on aire apology, prefaced by the fact that a racial comment was not her intent, and an acknowledgement of the history behind the word "lynch." All the other commentary and protest was extra. There always needs to be varying levels of importance and response or else the -isms will become meaningless.

pinkies up 02-20-2008 10:18 PM

That's fine. I think that there comes a time when people; ALL people should be held accountable for their actions. I don't think it is overblown. I think that people are just too accepting of ignorance.


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