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Old 02-15-2008, 06:01 PM
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Grateful that most of the students at NIU are uninjured, and in somber memory of those killed, I have to ask when we are going to start holding these universities and other schools accountable.

When are we going to recognize that someone like this shooter, with no criminal history, can do something so evil, and allow our students and professors to take charge of their own safety?

When are we going to point out that Illinois legislators are culpable? They have removed the option for law-abiding citizens to do anything but phone 911 and wait helplessly?

When are we going to push for the right to defend ourselves, our families, our brethren? When will we INSIST on having the CHOICE to defend ourselves?

I'm disgusted at any university administration and any legislature that does not permit self-defense.
Unless you mandate everyone who carries a gun get professional weapons training, we will return to the Wild West.
And where and how do you place "limits" on what type of weapons.
Hand guns, long guns, single shot, three shot, fully automatic military style, what caliber et al ?
And even pros get into trouble.
A few weeks ago in White Plains, NY an off duty, undercover officer was disarmed during an arrest and while picking up his weapon he either disregarded or did not hear warnings from other on duty officers. He was shot and killed.
The four officers involved in the shooting were doing what they trained to do; serve and protect.
It was rush hour; hundreds of people in area.
Just as the officers on campus did. They were there within minutes. And event was over within minutes.
The students seem to have done the right thing; get out of the way and get out of building.
Just how many college students do you know who have had professional weapons training?
I know one; a Brother who was a police officer.

While in Whitefish, MT a few years ago I thought I was in Dodge City.
I saw six shooters everywhere.

This kind of argument ends up being much like argument over death penalty.

How about if we just stay on topic of event here.
We can start a new,different thread on gun laws.
As well as a thread in R/M about guns in chapter houses.

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Old 02-15-2008, 06:02 PM
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Link to School's Newspaper

Found this link on CBS New site.
For campus newspaper:
http://www.northernstar.info/
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Old 02-15-2008, 07:25 PM
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According to the Sigma Kappa National Website, 2 of our sisters were in fact harmed. There is a letter from the Gamma Zeta chapter posted on the main site.
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:12 PM
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i can't believe this. it's so sad that it is not even safe to go to school
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:29 PM
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News updates-a few interesting ones:
Five lives full of promise ended in rampage

Young victims included Army veteran, violinist, aspiring teacher

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23186319

College shooter's deadly rampage baffles friends

Kazmierczak, 27, stopped taking meds; police search for girlfriend

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23171567

University shooter interested in 'peace and social justice'
  • <LI class=cnnHiliteHeader _extended="true">Story Highlights <LI _extended="true">NEW: Shooter was "committed student, extremely respectful," school adviser says
    <LI _extended="true">He "always paid on time, never a noise problem," ex-landlord says
    <LI _extended="true">Paper says shooter's interests included political violence, peace, social justice
    <LI _extended="true">Classroom killer shot five people to death, wounded 16 others Thursday
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/15/uni...ect/index.html<LI _extended="true"><LI _extended="true">Company: Gunman, Virginia Tech shooter used same Web dealer
    • <LI class=cnnHiliteHeader _extended="true">Story Highlights <LI _extended="true">NEW: The same company operates a Web site patronized by both gunmen
      <LI _extended="true">Three shooting victims remain in critical condition
      <LI _extended="true">Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich orders flags flown at half-staff throughout the state
      <LI _extended="true">Police chief: People close to gunman say he had become "erratic"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/15/uni...ef=mpstoryview
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