What makes Greek life "hot" in the south?

ladygreek · #1 02-14-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I have to say that ALL NPCs have "national name recognition". .

Not with me. National name recognition means that across the nation one would hear the name and know it was a NPC sorority. That doesn't take away from an org's validity, I'm just saying that is a very broad statement to make.

I would not presume that my own sorority (or the rest of the NPHC) has national name recognition even within the Black community, much less out of it. And there are only nine NPHC orgs.

SWTXBelle · #2 02-14-2008, 10:54 AM

Of course the NPCs don't have name recognition like, oh, say Coke. But I can't understand how any member of a NPC group, or for that matter an international/national fraternity, can remain ignorant of the orgs. If they are, it's a reflection on the individual,not the GLO.
Within the community at large I would not expect non-greeks to have any familiarity with the groups. That's one of the problems with negative information about any greek org - Joe Blow on the street thinks we are all alike, so when something bad happens we are all guilty by association.
I'm kinda surprised, Ladygreek, that NPHC members wouldn't be up to speed about other member GLOs. Heck, I'm familiar with all 9, and they were not all at either of my colleges. Do the orgs only cover their individual org history? I know we had to learn NPC history as part of our pledgeship.
I think membership is enhanced when you know more about your own org, and others. It helps to understand how the system evolved, and gives you an appreciation for the struggles and achievements of all the other GLOs.

12dn94dst · #3 02-14-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I'm kinda surprised, Ladygreek, that NPHC members wouldn't be up to speed about other member GLOs. Heck, I'm familiar with all 9, and they were not all at either of my colleges. Do the orgs only cover their individual org history? I know we had to learn NPC history as part of our pledgeship.

LG referenced our name recognition in the Black community as a whole, not within the NPHC community specifically.

Bottom line regarding name recognition for anyone or anything, you can't be familiar with that which you are not exposed.

DSTCHAOS · #4 02-14-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I'm kinda surprised, Ladygreek, that NPHC members wouldn't be up to speed about other member GLOs. Heck, I'm familiar with all 9, and they were not all at either of my colleges. Do the orgs only cover their individual org history? I know we had to learn NPC history as part of our pledgeship.
I think membership is enhanced when you know more about your own org, and others. It helps to understand how the system evolved, and gives you an appreciation for the struggles and achievements of all the other GLOs.

We were taught basic information, and respect given to, about other NPHC organizations.

If people want to know more details about other NPHC (or other) organizations they could "research" them before or after the membership intake process.

ladygreek · #5 02-14-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I'm kinda surprised, Ladygreek, that NPHC members wouldn't be up to speed about other member GLOs.

Why would be taught about other GLOs? Let's not get into the reason why BGLOs were formed in the first place. Very honestly, I never new much about the NPC until my sorority constitutionalized four years ago that anyone who was a member or had been a member of a NPC could not seek membership in Delta (which was caused by the increased number in recent years of those who wanted to do so.)

So I researched just who were the NPC. Between that and GC is how I have gained my knowledge of the NPC in the last four years, and I have been a member of the NPHC for 39 years. The NPC just wasn't on my radar. Again that doesn't denigrate the NPC, it just bolsters my point about national name recognition even within the total GLO--BGLOs, LGLOs, AGLOs, MCGLOs, etc.

DSTCHAOS · #6 02-14-2008, 01:30 PM

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Why would be taught about other GLOs? Let's not get into the reason why BGLOs were formed in the first place.

Yep.

Are all GLOs taught about BGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs? If not, then what's the point of acting surprised that BGLOs don't formally teach about all GLOs?

Those of us who exist on campuses with GLOs have the opportunity to learn about GLOs, collaborate on programs, and work closely together. That's what we did and that's more than enough.

ladygreek · #7 02-14-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yep.

Are all GLOs taught about BGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs? If not, then what's the point of acting surprised that BGLOs don't formally teach about all GLOs?

Those of us who exist on campuses with GLOs have the opportunity to learn about GLOs, collaborate on programs, and work closely together. That's what we did and that's more than enough.

And I would venture to say that your campus was more progressive than most--kudos.

DSTCHAOS · #8 02-14-2008, 01:59 PM

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And I would venture to say that your campus was more progressive than most--kudos.

The "campus" wasn't progressive but a few individuals got along really well and decided to make (organization and chapter-specific) NPC-NPHC social and service connections.

ladygreek · #9 02-14-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

The "campus" wasn't progressive but a few individuals got along really well and decided to make (organization and chapter-specific) NPC-NPHC social and service connections.

And I am sure you played a big role in that. Again kudos.

fantASTic · #10 02-14-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yep.

Are all GLOs taught about BGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs? If not, then what's the point of acting surprised that BGLOs don't formally teach about all GLOs?

Those of us who exist on campuses with GLOs have the opportunity to learn about GLOs, collaborate on programs, and work closely together. That's what we did and that's more than enough.

Maybe not on all campuses and all orgs, but I would expect our new members to be familiar with the BGLOs, LGLOs and MCGLOs on our campus at the VERY least. In fact, it's included in New Member Education.

Are the NPCs/IFCs on your campus included in your NME? Sorry if that's not cool to ask, I'm not sure.

DSTCHAOS · #11 02-14-2008, 02:57 PM

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Are the NPCs/IFCs on your campus included in your NME?

No.

That information was accessible through everyday Greek Life and campus interactions, since racial and ethnic minorities and NPHC orgs were a greatly outnumbered minority. So people who didn't live in a bubble pick this information on NPC/IFC up because it was everywhere.

SWTXBelle · #12 02-14-2008, 05:39 PM

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There you go - because you said "other GLOs", not "NPC", I read it to include other NPHC GLOs, and you've now confirmed that it is true, at least for your sorority.

Ilaria Ame · #13 02-14-2008, 03:04 PM

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Yep.

Are all GLOs taught about BGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs? If not, then what's the point of acting surprised that BGLOs don't formally teach about all GLOs?

Those of us who exist on campuses with GLOs have the opportunity to learn about GLOs, collaborate on programs, and work closely together. That's what we did and that's more than enough.

this is only speaking for us, and an interjection, not a debate. we were asked to research and make presentations on the NPC, NPHC, and IFC, as well as all the other orgs in the MGC. it wasn't something we had to memorize, and i certainly couldn't name all 26 NPC orgs off the top of my head or anything like that, but as a newer organization, our founders rightly felt it was nessessary for us to be aware of where we come from and be knowledgeable about other orgs. however, charter lines are required to do this, chapter lines are only reccomended.

DSTCHAOS · #14 02-14-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilaria Ame

this is only speaking for us, and an interjection, not a debate. we were asked to research and make presentations on the NPC, NPHC, and IFC, as well as all the other orgs in the MGC. it wasn't something we had to memorize, and i certainly couldn't name all 26 NPC orgs off the top of my head or anything like that, but as a newer organization, our founders rightly felt it was nessessary for us to be aware of where we come from and be knowledgeable about other orgs. however, charter lines are required to do this, chapter lines are only reccomended.

That's the context in which you all did this.

Ilaria Ame · #15 02-14-2008, 03:16 PM

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That's the context in which you all did this.

yeah, that's what i meant when i said i wasn't debating. lol, it would be pretty silly for me to be like "Well, we do it, so why don't ya'll???" i understand why we did it and i feel it was very enlightened of our founders to realize that we had to be twice as knowledgeable to get half the respect coming up as a new org. i certainly wouldn't be offended if you asked me general information like "what are your colors? what year were you founded?" because it's NOT general information to most people! but for us, we need to KNOW every else's facts without a doubt or we look like we don't respect our predecessors enough to find out.