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Old 01-29-2008, 09:48 PM
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Ohio State University:
Quota was 25, Chapter Total is 100

Alpha Chi Omega-17
Alpha Gamma Delta - 19
Alpha Omicron Pi-10
Kappa Kappa Gamma- 20
Delta Gamma- 25
Alpha Phi- 24
Kappa Delta-23
Pi Beta Phi- 12
Kappa Alpha Theta- 19
Delta Zeta- 12
Delta Delta Delta- 25
Alpha Epsilon Phi- 23
Alpha Xi Delta- 15
Chi Omega- 25
Only three chapters made quota? Is that normal at OSU?
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:24 PM
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Only three chapters made quota? Is that normal at OSU?

No it's not. From what I was told, a lot of girls suicided and lost.

One of the traditionally strongest chapters took one of the lowest pledge classes, but they always compete with the same girls as one chapter that took quota.

Also,two chapters that didn't take quota -- Kappa Delta and Alpha Phi -- couldn't take quota because it would take them over chapter total of 100.
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:37 PM
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Also, two [Ohio State] chapters that didn't take quota -- Kappa Delta and Alpha Phi -- couldn't take quota because it would take them over chapter total of 100.
I have read here on GC that some NPCs require a chapter to make quota before the chapter is eligible for certain inter/national awards. As such, I would hope that both the Alpha Phi and the Kappa Delta chapters will be eligible within their organizations since both chapters took the *maximum* number allowed.
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:43 PM
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I have read here on GC that some NPCs require a chapter to make quota before the chapter is eligible for certain inter/national awards. As such, I would hope that both the Alpha Phi and the Kappa Delta chapters will be eligible within their organizations since both chapters took the *maximum* number allowed.
Ohio State has different guidelines. Chapter total cannot be exceeded regardless of what quota is. This is to prevent an imbalance of chapter size and to keep more chapters on campus.

I'm not saying it's right, but it's the way it has been forever. Panhellenic Council lowered chapter total from 105 to 100 sometime during the 90s because of fewer girls going through recruitment.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:01 AM
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No it's not. From what I was told, a lot of girls suicided and lost.

One of the traditionally strongest chapters took one of the lowest pledge classes, but they always compete with the same girls as one chapter that took quota.

Also,two chapters that didn't take quota -- Kappa Delta and Alpha Phi -- couldn't take quota because it would take them over chapter total of 100.
Does anybody have a Green Book handy? I sincerely think that the concept of an NPC Quota/Total Recruitment means that every chapter can take Quota, whether it takes them over Total or not. I really don't see how a school can get around that.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:21 AM
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Does anybody have a Green Book handy? I sincerely think that the concept of an NPC Quota/Total Recruitment means that every chapter can take Quota, whether it takes them over Total or not. I really don't see how a school can get around that.
The same way Indiana can get away with not having a consistent total. Plus, it's a school rule and school rules trump sorority rules - if the sororities don't like the school rules, they leave.

I'm sure that in these type cases, the nationals are aware of the rules and the groups aren't penalized for it. I mean, we had/have some groups that are the only sorority on campus - needless to say they don't have quota (although they do have a membership target). That doesn't stop them from winning membership awards.
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:23 PM
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The same way Indiana can get away with not having a consistent total. Plus, it's a school rule and school rules trump sorority rules - if the sororities don't like the school rules, they leave.

I'm sure that in these type cases, the nationals are aware of the rules and the groups aren't penalized for it. I mean, we had/have some groups that are the only sorority on campus - needless to say they don't have quota (although they do have a membership target). That doesn't stop them from winning membership awards.
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Does anybody have a Green Book handy? I sincerely think that the concept of an NPC Quota/Total Recruitment means that every chapter can take Quota, whether it takes them over Total or not. I really don't see how a school can get around that.
According to the Green Book a chapter can exceed total as a result of participating in Panhellenic recruitment, but schools can always modify these rules to say that they can't.

The Green Book also says that women who suicide, SIP, whatever you want to call it are eligible for snap bidding and on some campuses that isn't the case either.

I also know that Nebraska doesn't establish a campus wide quota, it's a per chapter quota that fluctuates from year to year.
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