Recruitment Fall 2007-Spring 2008

[Benzgirl]

Ohio State University:
Quota was 25, Chapter Total is 100

Alpha Chi Omega-17
Alpha Gamma Delta - 19
Alpha Omicron Pi-10
Kappa Kappa Gamma- 20
Delta Gamma- 25
Alpha Phi- 24
Kappa Delta-23
Pi Beta Phi- 12
Kappa Alpha Theta- 19
Delta Zeta- 12
Delta Delta Delta- 25
Alpha Epsilon Phi- 23
Alpha Xi Delta- 15
Chi Omega- 25

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Ohio State University:
Quota was 25, Chapter Total is 100

Alpha Chi Omega-17
Alpha Gamma Delta - 19
Alpha Omicron Pi-10
Kappa Kappa Gamma- 20
Delta Gamma- 25
Alpha Phi- 24
Kappa Delta-23
Pi Beta Phi- 12
Kappa Alpha Theta- 19
Delta Zeta- 12
Delta Delta Delta- 25
Alpha Epsilon Phi- 23
Alpha Xi Delta- 15
Chi Omega- 25

I have always wondered why there isn't more interest in sororities at Ohio State? The campus with the largest undergrad enrollment in the country and only 300-some-odd women pledge each year?

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

I have always wondered why there isn't more interest in sororities at Ohio State? The campus with the largest undergrad enrollment in the country and only 300-some-odd women pledge each year?

Alpha Delta Pi had a chapter there until about 4-5 years ago. They had decent memberships numbers, but no one would live in the house. I'm sure there were more issues than that, but IMHO, when you have a somewhat urban campus, people often find more to do than greek life permits.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Alpha Delta Pi had a chapter there until about 4-5 years ago. They had decent memberships numbers, but no one would live in the house. I'm sure there were more issues than that, but IMHO, when you have a somewhat urban campus, people often find more to do than greek life permits.

You are correct. The same year that ADPi left, so did DPhiE. Sigma Delta Tau and Phi Mu left in the 90s and Zeta Tau Alpha have left in the late 80s. Kappa Delta did a huge recolonization in the 80s which took them from a low of 20 members to total.

Many of the houses are physically large. Ours held 56 (out of 100 in the chapter), so when you back out pledges, those traveling abroad and locals, it basically means everyone has to live in the house. This has been a big problem for several chapters

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

You are correct. The same year that ADPi left, so did DPhiE. Sigma Delta Tau and Phi Mu left in the 90s and Zeta Tau Alpha have left in the late 80s. Kappa Delta did a huge recolonization in the 80s which took them from a low of 20 members to total.

Many of the houses are physically large. Ours held 56 (out of 100 in the chapter), so when you back out pledges, those traveling abroad and locals, it basically means everyone has to live in the house. This has been a big problem for several chapters

Our house (I forget who has it now - AXD?) slept 55, and only 5 women were willing to live in it, despite the numbers. At the time, I said that it showed more troubles with the house mother/housing corp than the chapter, but since I'm not there, I'm not really "in the know". Besides, my old chapter inherited a lot of their furnishings - a real coup for them!

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

I have always wondered why there isn't more interest in sororities at Ohio State? The campus with the largest undergrad enrollment in the country and only 300-some-odd women pledge each year?

This is a good example of North vs. South. OSU is a pretty liberal university, and a lot of students come in with pre-conceived notions that they don't fit the stereotype (I have a niece in that situation right now). Also, there is so much to do on the campus that you really don't need a GLO to become involved in leadership. I think only 3-5% of undergrads that are Greek.

Sororities are limited to a house total of 100, so low pledge numbers may or may not mean they are already at total. When I was in school, total was 105 and 15 of the 18 houses were full. Now, there are only 14 chapters, but loads of Multi-Cultural chapters

I'm not sure if they have early release. I know in last year's FR, many of the traditionally more popular houses did not make quota or total, which is why Alpha Gamma Delta did so well during their re-colonization, which followed Formal Rush.

Except for Miami of Ohio, the state of Ohio in general is not a big Greek conclave. Growing up, the only thing I knew about GLOs was that my cousin was in one (didn't even know that my dad was Greek). It isn't the center of your life, your parents do not necessarily have the same friends they did in school or college, there were no teas or preparation, and nothing was mentioned about GLOs at my high school. When I was going through Rush and for the first time read about Recs, my mom had to ask around to find women that were in sororities. It turns out, many of her friends were Greek, but she didn't know it because it never came into a conversation.

Most houses are now doing COB, which was unheard of when I was in school in the 80s. I don't have the exact number that went through recruitment, but I was to say that I heard 800-900 were signed up.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Ohio State University:
Quota was 25, Chapter Total is 100

Alpha Chi Omega-17
Alpha Gamma Delta - 19
Alpha Omicron Pi-10
Kappa Kappa Gamma- 20
Delta Gamma- 25
Alpha Phi- 24
Kappa Delta-23
Pi Beta Phi- 12
Kappa Alpha Theta- 19
Delta Zeta- 12
Delta Delta Delta- 25
Alpha Epsilon Phi- 23
Alpha Xi Delta- 15
Chi Omega- 25

Only three chapters made quota? Is that normal at OSU?

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Only three chapters made quota? Is that normal at OSU?

No it's not. From what I was told, a lot of girls suicided and lost.

One of the traditionally strongest chapters took one of the lowest pledge classes, but they always compete with the same girls as one chapter that took quota.

Also,two chapters that didn't take quota -- Kappa Delta and Alpha Phi -- couldn't take quota because it would take them over chapter total of 100.

[TSteven]

Also, two [Ohio State] chapters that didn't take quota -- Kappa Delta and Alpha Phi -- couldn't take quota because it would take them over chapter total of 100.

I have read here on GC that some NPCs require a chapter to make quota before the chapter is eligible for certain inter/national awards. As such, I would hope that both the Alpha Phi and the Kappa Delta chapters will be eligible within their organizations since both chapters took the *maximum* number allowed.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by TSteven

I have read here on GC that some NPCs require a chapter to make quota before the chapter is eligible for certain inter/national awards. As such, I would hope that both the Alpha Phi and the Kappa Delta chapters will be eligible within their organizations since both chapters took the *maximum* number allowed.

Ohio State has different guidelines. Chapter total cannot be exceeded regardless of what quota is. This is to prevent an imbalance of chapter size and to keep more chapters on campus.

I'm not saying it's right, but it's the way it has been forever. Panhellenic Council lowered chapter total from 105 to 100 sometime during the 90s because of fewer girls going through recruitment.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

No it's not. From what I was told, a lot of girls suicided and lost.

One of the traditionally strongest chapters took one of the lowest pledge classes, but they always compete with the same girls as one chapter that took quota.

Also,two chapters that didn't take quota -- Kappa Delta and Alpha Phi -- couldn't take quota because it would take them over chapter total of 100.

Does anybody have a Green Book handy? I sincerely think that the concept of an NPC Quota/Total Recruitment means that every chapter can take Quota, whether it takes them over Total or not. I really don't see how a school can get around that.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Does anybody have a Green Book handy? I sincerely think that the concept of an NPC Quota/Total Recruitment means that every chapter can take Quota, whether it takes them over Total or not. I really don't see how a school can get around that.

The same way Indiana can get away with not having a consistent total. Plus, it's a school rule and school rules trump sorority rules - if the sororities don't like the school rules, they leave.

I'm sure that in these type cases, the nationals are aware of the rules and the groups aren't penalized for it. I mean, we had/have some groups that are the only sorority on campus - needless to say they don't have quota (although they do have a membership target). That doesn't stop them from winning membership awards.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by 33girl

The same way Indiana can get away with not having a consistent total. Plus, it's a school rule and school rules trump sorority rules - if the sororities don't like the school rules, they leave.

I'm sure that in these type cases, the nationals are aware of the rules and the groups aren't penalized for it. I mean, we had/have some groups that are the only sorority on campus - needless to say they don't have quota (although they do have a membership target). That doesn't stop them from winning membership awards.

Good point.

[bluefish81]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Does anybody have a Green Book handy? I sincerely think that the concept of an NPC Quota/Total Recruitment means that every chapter can take Quota, whether it takes them over Total or not. I really don't see how a school can get around that.

According to the Green Book a chapter can exceed total as a result of participating in Panhellenic recruitment, but schools can always modify these rules to say that they can't.

The Green Book also says that women who suicide, SIP, whatever you want to call it are eligible for snap bidding and on some campuses that isn't the case either.

I also know that Nebraska doesn't establish a campus wide quota, it's a per chapter quota that fluctuates from year to year.