Hazing creates a sense of unity

[cuteASAbug]

so that means he's clearly not the brightest crayon in the box- how is that hazing though?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

so that means he's clearly not the brightest crayon in the box- how is that hazing though?

LOL. It's not. I think she was responding to the "hazing creates unity" claim -- she knew these guys were from a chapter that hazes, yet they didn't have enough unity for the chapter president to know one of his own pledges.

I'm not sure it's an apt example, though. The "hazing creates unity" claim is usually made regarding unity within a pledge class ("we suffered together, we got each other through it, it made us stronger and closer"), not an entire chapter as such.

With the disclaimer that I do not support hazing of any kind, I'll say again what I've said before -- hazing, while destructive (for want of a better word) does, I think, tap into some very deep-rooted instincts and needs, at least for guys. I think that the laudable efforts to end hazing can only really succeed if we are aware of that and actively look for more constructive ways to meet those needs.

[ForeverRoses]

I think it relates to hazing because this was/is a fraternity known to haze their pledges. Someone else stated that hazing creates a sense of unity with the chapter. Since the president didn't even know the pledge, how did the hazing of the pledges create unity? (since if they were all united because of hazing, shouldn't the prez know the pledge?)


At least that's what I got out of it.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

I think it relates to hazing because this was/is a fraternity known to haze their pledges. Someone else stated that hazing creates a sense of unity with the chapter. Since the president didn't even know the pledge, how did the hazing of the pledges create unity? (since if they were all united because of hazing, shouldn't the prez know the pledge?)

At least that's what I got out of it.

Everyone's group runs differently, for all we know this guy was prez in name only and was never around. Or, as cuteASAbug said, he just is stupid or bad with names. I don't think it's anything to get upset about.

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Everyone's group runs differently, for all we know this guy was prez in name only and was never around. Or, as cuteASAbug said, he just is stupid or bad with names. I don't think it's anything to get upset about.

I wasn't upset (and I hope I didn't sound like I was), I was just trying to put the pieces together as to why not knowing your pledges has anything to do with hazing. Sorry if it sounded like I was upset!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

I wasn't upset (and I hope I didn't sound like I was), I was just trying to put the pieces together as to why not knowing your pledges has anything to do with hazing. Sorry if it sounded like I was upset!

I didn't mean you hon