Golden Compass

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AlexMack

I watched an interview with Pullman who stated that Paradise Lost was his favourite piece of literature and that he got goosebumps reading it, thus there's a lot of Milton influence within the books.
I just think this is dumb overall-reading Harry Potter won't make you a witch, reading the Golden Compass (Northern Lights in England, some trivia for you) won't make you an atheist.
Come on, armoured bears, different universes, standing up to a wrongful and oppressive institution? Read that into it instead of assuming anyone who reads Pullman stops believing in God.
It's his epic, he's said so himself.

Honestly, my issue with the series is that the books just weren't that good. And I like "teen" fantasy/science fiction.

And, despite the controversy, it appears that the movie's bombing. I doubt that the "boycotts" are the reason for this... The reviews were very underwhelming.

[James]

Its not as bad as eragon is it? That was a painful read. I was going to pick up the pullman books. The movie was fun to watch.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Honestly, my issue with the series is that the books just weren't that good. And I like "teen" fantasy/science fiction.

And, despite the controversy, it appears that the movie's bombing. I doubt that the "boycotts" are the reason for this... The reviews were very underwhelming.

[Drolefille]

No I think it's better than Eragon. I've read both series... (yeah I can be a bit masochistic and/or obsessive I haven't figured out why)

Eragon is, IMO, an undeveloped, poorly written, story by a bad author. There's potential, but it is so obvious the kid is 15 and if it weren't for Harry Potter and the fact that his parents self-published him, Eragon wouldn't exist.

His Dark Materials is a cool idea. I love Lyra's world, I love the concept of daemons and the subtle knife and all of the environment, and Golden Compass/ Northern Lights is not bad at all. However I think the series is a downward slope where it becomes less about the story and more about Pullman's point. Narnia was so good because you didn't need to read the allegory to love the books. There's no way to avoid the "message" behind HDM because it's so.... OMG in your face.

And I say this as a person who's very fond of alternate reality novels, dystopias, post-apocalyptic, other-worldly fascist societies etc... so the fact that "The Church" is the "bad guy" doesn't inherently bother me. But it was less "Look a story" and more "don't you see my POINT, it's BIG, and DRAMATIC, Religion is BAD"

That said, YMMV, because I've heard some people who love it, some who hated it and they ran the gamut from Conservative Christian to atheist on both sides. I'm just kind of "meh" about it.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

No I think it's better than Eragon. I've read both series... (yeah I can be a bit masochistic and/or obsessive I haven't figured out why)

Eragon is, IMO, an undeveloped, poorly written, story by a bad author. There's potential, but it is so obvious the kid is 15 and if it weren't for Harry Potter and the fact that his parents self-published him, Eragon wouldn't exist.

His Dark Materials is a cool idea. I love Lyra's world, I love the concept of daemons and the subtle knife and all of the environment, and Golden Compass/ Northern Lights is not bad at all. However I think the series is a downward slope where it becomes less about the story and more about Pullman's point. Narnia was so good because you didn't need to read the allegory to love the books. There's no way to avoid the "message" behind HDM because it's so.... OMG in your face.

And I say this as a person who's very fond of alternate reality novels, dystopias, post-apocalyptic, other-worldly fascist societies etc... so the fact that "The Church" is the "bad guy" doesn't inherently bother me. But it was less "Look a story" and more "don't you see my POINT, it's BIG, and DRAMATIC, Religion is BAD"

That said, YMMV, because I've heard some people who love it, some who hated it and they ran the gamut from Conservative Christian to atheist on both sides. I'm just kind of "meh" about it.

eragon was painful...

That's at least 2 hrs of my life I regret...a movie that looked like it was directed by a 15 years from a story a 12 year old wrote....nothing even remotely original...

They should have called Eragon

Lord of the Star Wars: The Fellowship of the Blue Dragon

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

eragon was painful...

That's at least 2 hrs of my life I regret...a movie that looked like it was directed by a 15 years from a story a 12 year old wrote....nothing even remotely original...

They should have called Eragon

Lord of the Star Wars: The Fellowship of the Blue Dragon

Oh I refused to watch the movie.

If anyone dislikes Eragon, or enjoys snarky commentary there's a site out there that "sporked" Eragon and even rewrote certain chapters to show how they could be made not to suck.

It also points out thing like how Eragon is somehow drawing a bow and holding several extra arrows, so he probably has three hands, and how they push the horses so far and hard without feeding them or anything that they're probably zombie horses.

And I found the link http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/