Golden Compass

AGDLynn · #1 12-07-2007, 11:51 PM

Awesome!

carnation · #2 12-08-2007, 09:52 AM

I heard that the movie was good but the books...I've heard that Philip Pullman is a raving atheist and makes the clergy the bad guys in all his movies. I read part of the Golden Compass before giving up on it and it sure did seem to be going along those lines.

Drolefille · #3 12-08-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by carnation

I heard that the movie was good but the books...I've heard that Philip Pullman is a raving atheist and makes the clergy the bad guys in all his movies. I read part of the Golden Compass before giving up on it and it sure did seem to be going along those lines.

The first book isn't as much of an attack as the rest, and the movie has toned it down.

But somewhere in the second book it goes from a general comparison to an outright hate for organized religion and the Catholic Church rather specifically (The Magisterium).

But, I did enjoy the plot in the first two, the third was too.. well something. I didn't get through it, and I'm a reader.

Scandia · #4 12-08-2007, 08:26 PM

It was okay. And that goes for both the movie and the book.

In the movie they did show the questioning of authority and the dangers of institutions that engage in mind control and try to get rid of anyone whose beliefs are different- like some religious organizations have done in the past. But they did not have any overt criticism of religion.

Although IIRC, they only do some analysis in The Golden Compass book and they get to the downright criticism in the two sequels.

I prefer Narnia.

Munchkin03 · #5 12-08-2007, 09:32 PM

I was talking with my mom today about this movie. It seems that there are a lot of fundamentalist Christians picketing the movie at the hometown theater.

Hooray for their 1st Amendment rights and all, but I don't really have any respect for someone who would encourage others to boycott a movie they haven't seen, which is in turn based on a book they haven't read. Doesn't it actually make more sense for someone to read the book/movie in question, and then form their opinion based on it, instead of bashing it based on whatever the pastor of the moment has to say about it? That doesn't make much sense to me.

Drolefille · #6 12-08-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I was talking with my mom today about this movie. It seems that there are a lot of fundamentalist Christians picketing the movie at the hometown theater.

Hooray for their 1st Amendment rights and all, but I don't really have any respect for someone who would encourage others to boycott a movie they haven't seen, which is in turn based on a book they haven't read. Doesn't it actually make more sense for someone to read the book/movie in question, and then form their opinion based on it, instead of bashing it based on whatever the pastor of the moment has to say about it? That doesn't make much sense to me.

I agree with you, but thankfully the actual Catholic Church has stayed out of the issue. And most of us ignore the Catholic League. They're a few wafers short of a Mass.

Pope · #7 12-08-2007, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

And most of us ignore the Catholic League. They're a few wafers short of a Mass.

This made me chuckle.

Drolefille · #8 12-09-2007, 12:16 AM

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This made me chuckle.

Thanks Pope, you're cool.

Btw, you don't photograph well. Try some cucumbers on those bags under your eyes. Or a little Oil of Olay maybe!

DaemonSeid · #9 12-09-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

It was okay. And that goes for both the movie and the book.

In the movie they did show the questioning of authority and the dangers of institutions that engage in mind control and try to get rid of anyone whose beliefs are different- like some religious organizations have done in the past. But they did not have any overt criticism of religion.

Although IIRC, they only do some analysis in The Golden Compass book and they get to the downright criticism in the two sequels.

I prefer Narnia.

I agree...don't know if I can sit thru 2 more.

did enjoy the bear getting his jaw knocked off...heheh

nikki1920 · #10 12-10-2007, 09:38 AM

The fight scene with the bears was worth it. It was a good movie. I'm all for allowing people to excercise their free will, and that seemed to be what the Magisterium was trying to prevent people from doing.

DSTCHAOS · #11 12-13-2007, 11:05 AM

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The fight scene with the bears was worth it. It was a good movie.

That's the only thing I want to see. Bears make the world go 'round.

AlexMack · #12 12-13-2007, 02:31 AM

Ugh, have none of you read Paradise Lost for christ sake? That's what he's basing a lot of his material on, not just his hatred (justified I think, in some ways) of organized religion.

Go read Milton, then read the damn books before you judge this.

So lame

SthrnZeta · #13 12-13-2007, 10:40 AM

I read both Paradise Lost and the Golden Compass in college (different classes) and whether the connection was intentional on the part of the author or something someone else realized, I can see what you're getting at. I haven't read the other books in the series but I am interested to see how they play out in terms of this issue.

And I totally agree that picketing something you've neither read nor seen is just ridiculous. They're only propogating the statement the author made about organized religion... Moo?

nikki1920 · #14 12-13-2007, 11:01 AM

or Baaa.
It's a movie. You have the choice to see it or not. Pick one.

DSTCHAOS · #15 12-13-2007, 11:09 AM

People protest things all the time without actually testing out the product first. They would rather protest for good measure than pay their money, etc. If you don't agree with the protest, don't protest.

I do see protests as free advertisement. I won't be going to see the Golden Compass until the dollar theater, either way. The bears can wait.