Help Finding a non-NPC Sorority to Affiliate With!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

LPIDelta, I think you're getting your threads confused. There was another thread, regarding an undisclosed school, that had two groups trying to go NPC but there was a tie when the CPC voted.

It's the same school in both threads.

[Denise_DPhiE]

Originally Posted by rcnjinterest

We're not looking to steal/imitate someone else's hard work and progress with an organization that has already been founded. We're trying to figure out if there is a local group interested in expansion, or a national glo which represents the values we stand for that we could create a colony and become a part of. If not, we're going to go the route of creating our own, original organization. A majority of the girls, myself included, think that having other chapters at different institutions is something that we would like to be a part of.

What about the existing groups on campus does not meet your needs? That should be your starting point. what values etc do you not see in the groups there. You need a copy of the panhel constitution b/c in all likelihood, you cannot start a local unless it is underground and not recognized by University. Are you looking for a club or a sisterhood. Ramapo is small - the NPC groups are small too so that is why they will not vote to bring on another.

[Denise_DPhiE]

Originally Posted by LPIDelta

Yes, I am well aware of why she is looking for a non-NPC national. Her school does not allow locals and the NPCs have essentially voted "no" to expansion. I don't think jumping through another hoop to get around the NPC vote is really fair or a good idea. The Greek Life person needs to support the existing sororities first.

Amen sista!

[AlphaFrog]

I don't know what that campus is like, but it seems from my take on this situation that it might be in the CPC's best interest to reconsider expansion. There is obviously at least one group (and rumors about a second) that for whatever reason have decided that the current groups aren't for them. Fair or unfair, they probably aren't going to change their mind, especially just because a few people on an internet messageboard said they should. So, either these girls get permission and petition NPC groups and play by NPC rules, or they start a local/non-NPC. Due to NPC rules, the NPCs are limited in what they can do to compete with a local sorority if that campus finds that locals are more favorable (due to being less restrictive/less structured/whatever). If the new group(s) are NPC, CPC will have a little more control of the situation. And, mathematically speaking, 5 or 6 groups have more presence on campus than 4, so it's possible that more exposure could cause EVERYONE'S numbers to go up. You're always going to have a "weakest link", but a stronger system is beneficial for EVERYONE.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

It's the same school in both threads.

How do we know this?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Ch2tf

How do we know this?

luv in tpa started the other thread. luv in tpa stated in TPA's rolecall thread that she goes to Ramapo. 2+2=4.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

luv in tpa started the other thread. luv in tpa stated in TPA's rolecall thread that she goes to Ramapo. 2+2=4.

Calm down it was a question. While I am familiar with the other thread that luvntpa started, I had not seen her roll call thread. Be easy, sheesh.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Ch2tf

Calm down it was a question. While I am familiar with the other thread that luvntpa started, I had not seen her roll call thread. Be easy, sheesh.

Who's not calm? You asked, I answered.

[33girl]

OK, I'm gonna stop being PC and say it.

I went to a school with a smaller Greek system with a very diverse variety of types of people in the sororities - I don't mean racially, I mean more personality wise. If you went the whole way through rush and weren't offered a bid from ANYONE, either you really misjudged your options (i.e. you thought the top group was really going to give you a bid when they were just stringing you along and so you were rude to the rest of the groups because you thought you had it "in the bag") or you were pretty socially backward.

The OP is presenting her group as a group of awesome ladies that got dicked over by the big bad Sorority Mean Girls, when in actuality some of them probably were dismissive to sororities that offered them membership. She herself says that she turned down a bid.

Bringing a new NPC does not change the girls on your campus - if the XYZs at the school down the road are all fashion plate student leaders with Porsches, it doesn't mean that just because you bring XYZ to your campus that it's going to change the fact that 75% of your school is on financial aid and wear sweatpants 6 days out of 7.

[Drolefille]

Yeah, and I suspect it's not quite as the OP presented it as far as the girls being skipped or what have you. But if the NPC system is struggling there AND there are other non-NPC options well... Actually I think a lot depends on the health of the current non-NPCs. Are they struggling as well? Are they very niche groups? Do they haze? Just as bringing on a new NPC won't change Greek culture, bringing on a new non-NPC won't necessarily either. If those non-NPCs are flourishing, or if they're faltering because of their behaviors, then bringing a new group on isn't such a bad idea.

I highly suspect every interest group portrays themselves as girls who just didn't find a home during recruitment... even if it's made up of girls who didn't rush, etc.

[tallgreekalum]

We(GLOs) are all voluntary associations. This is the argument we've made every time a college tries to tell us who to accept as members (single-sex), every time the government tries to treat us like public organizations. While we are free to set up voluntary groups(IFC, Pan-Hel, Panhel, etc) and even extend those voluntary groups on a national or international basis, we cannot be true to our contentions if we do not agree that anyone has that same right. While the NPC sororities have the right to decide amongst themselves their own rules, they cannot expect outsiders to operate by those rules.

[ZetaXiDelta]

Originally Posted by rcnjinterest

Hey Everyone! This is my first post on here, so please bear with me. Myself and a group of girls at my college are attempting to bring a new sorority onto our campus. We have, in essence, been told that we cannot bring a new NPC sorority to campus, so we are looking into the possibility of a local organization. Ideally, we would like to have other groups either nationally or locally that we could talk to, meet up with, and share traditions and rituals with. The problem is, we're having a lot of trouble figuring out what our options are! It seems like a lot of the databases with lists of locals and national GLOs have many broken links, or don't list many schools near us. So, myself and the girls were hoping that you could give us some suggestions of sororities that you either belong to, or know of, in our area for us to get into contact with! We're from Ramapo College of NJ, which is in Mahwah, NJ.

Thanks in advance for all your help!

I sent you a PM

[rcnjinterest]

In case anyone is interested in how this situation is progressing, a non-NPC national group has been selected and contacted about expansion. An interest group has been formed and will be meeting this semester in order to attempt an expansion process.

Also, thank you so much to the girls who expressed interest in expanding their local organizations to our campus. We were unfortunately informed that local organizations are not allowed at our school, and were thus unable to consider your groups in our process (although we would have loved to!). But thank you again SO much for you messages and support. <3

[aopirose]

Congratulations!

[AlwaysSAI]

Congrats!! Keep us updated on everything!